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Jesse Ventura vs Chris Kyle
« on: July 30, 2014, 11:25:52 AM »
what is your opinion on this? 
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Re: Jesse Ventura vs Chris Kyle
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2014, 11:31:30 AM »
First I would have to know who these people are, then I could have an opinion...  :old:
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Re: Jesse Ventura vs Chris Kyle
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2014, 12:11:46 PM »
Jesse Ventura washed up wrestler/ dirt bag politician nothing else needs to be said.
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Re: Jesse Ventura vs Chris Kyle
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2014, 12:18:55 PM »
First I would have to know who these people are, then I could have an opinion...  :old:

Chris Kyle was a SEAL sniper that fought in Afghanistan.  He claimed in his book that he wrote before he was murdered, that he was at a local SEAL hang out in Coronado when he over heard Jesse Ventura talk bad about the SEALs and supposedly said they deserved to lose team members in combat.  In the book, Chris Kyle confronted Jesse Ventura and punched him in the face.  Jesse Ventura sued for defamation of character, slander/libel and won in court.

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Re: Jesse Ventura vs Chris Kyle
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2014, 12:31:10 PM »
Chris Kyle was a SEAL sniper that fought in Afghanistan.  He claimed in his book that he wrote before he was murdered, that he was at a local SEAL hang out in Coronado when he over heard Jesse Ventura talk bad about the SEALs and supposedly said they deserved to lose team members in combat.  In the book, Chris Kyle confronted Jesse Ventura and punched him in the face.  Jesse Ventura sued for defamation of character, slander/libel and won in court.

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Re: Jesse Ventura vs Chris Kyle
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2014, 12:34:39 PM »
Chris Kyle was a SEAL sniper that fought in Iraq.

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Re: Jesse Ventura vs Chris Kyle
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2014, 12:44:15 PM »
You forgot to mention he was one of two governors in the movie Predator.

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Re: Jesse Ventura vs Chris Kyle
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2014, 01:13:51 PM »
Seeing this story pop up everywhere now.  I'm surprised at the verdict, as Ventura has less credibility than many years ago since hosting a wing nut conspiracy theory show.  Hearing some of his rants and raves on there would most think he's capable of saying anything.

His contention is that his money prospects dried up after the American Sniper book story about him, which he says made him look treasonous, and "backed him into a corner" to have to sue.  He has said repeatedly since yesterday that he is now ostracized from his Seal family, as most young guys hate him now, despite the witnesses for Chris Kyle contradicting themselves, which helped his claim that the event of him saying crap and getting hit never happened. 

Who knows, true or not, I think Ventura is the negative in the whole deal, as HE is the one that continued to sue Kyle's widow after his death.  That shows to me he puts money ahead of Team, way ahead, and THAT is why this is going to turn out badly for him IMO.  He claims he needed to defend his rep, but that's BS imo, as all he has done is drawn attention to the whole matter, not actually change anyone's mind about the truth of the matter.  He has been squawking about a Presidential run for 2016, he's on drugs if he thinks anyone is going to finance that now, as he put himself in the position to be the most hated person on the internet this year.

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Re: Jesse Ventura vs Chris Kyle
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2014, 01:26:03 PM »
The books publisher bought an insurance policy for slander which is going to make the payment. If they thought they needed that in anyway then theres something there to raise doubt and concern. I've been reading some things on this rather then relying on meme's and facebook posts from idiots. I'm leaning more towards it didn't happen the way the book claims. If so, then he has the right to sue and is due what the jury hearing the case awarded him.

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Re: Jesse Ventura vs Chris Kyle
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2014, 02:57:41 PM »
I agree with previous poster to a certain extant.  I've been following it since it began when the book came out.  


Ventura had to pass a pretty high threshold in order to win many articles are saying, and like I said before, many witnesses stories didn't line up accurately.  Ventura had an airline ticket and rental car receipt showing he couldn't have even been there when 1/2 the witnesses said he was.  He also had no marks on him afterwards during interviews showing that he had been hit.  Again - who knows the truth of it, that's my point, is regardless of what happened, for all of Ventura's going on about his "family of UDT/Seals", he chose to sue "family" for money - money - instead of settling it outside of that, and that's the primary reason he is being ostracized by most of his community.  

I also subscribe to the theory that due to his shows, and on air personality in interviews, many would line up against him regardless if he is in the right or not, something he should have considered before filing a lawsuit.

Good example of what's happening - I read all over my social media - which includes many x Navy guys, including some x Teams guys I've worked with both at Sig Sauer Academy and in a private military company - that Ventura in his CBS interview mistakenly said "I can't go to Seal events now as I may get hit AGAIN", many jumping on the fact that he used the word "again" a possible Freudian slip of admission that the whole thing did happen.  I went hunting for that CBS interview, found it, and that isn't what he said at all, yet guys you would expect to be interested in the truth and facts are misrepresenting what Ventura said in that interview.  The whole situation sucks, but if it in fact is as Ventura said, I feel badly for him as well, but still think he may have made a mistake filing suit.  If indeed the money doesn't come from Kyle's estate at all, harming his wife and 2 kids, and from insurance and the publisher - I don't know, maybe Ventura has a case for what he's done.  It won't help him in his dream of a Presidential run, although some say there is no such thing as bad press, and he's all over the news right now.
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Re: Jesse Ventura vs Chris Kyle
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2014, 06:51:46 PM »
For me, the truth about the story in the book does not matter one bit.  The only thing that matters to me is that Ventura is a man who is willing to take money from the widow of a man who fought for our country.  That is all.

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Re: Jesse Ventura vs Chris Kyle
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2014, 07:08:32 PM »
I thought he was taking it from the insurance company?
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Re: Jesse Ventura vs Chris Kyle
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2014, 07:27:02 PM »
For me, the truth about the story in the book does not matter one bit.  The only thing that matters to me is that Ventura is a man who is willing to take money from the widow of a man who fought for our country.  That is all.

Kyle shouldn't have slandered Ventura in his book and interviews.

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Re: Jesse Ventura vs Chris Kyle
« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2014, 07:45:30 PM »
Kyle shouldn't have slandered Ventura in his book and interviews.

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I agree, slander is wrong. But I agree with Branch, Ventura doesn't need to sue his widow.....Isn't his murder enough bad karma?
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Re: Jesse Ventura vs Chris Kyle
« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2014, 11:08:25 PM »
I agree, slander is wrong. But I agree with Branch, Ventura doesn't need to sue his widow.....Isn't his murder enough bad karma?
He didn't sue the widow. He sued Kyle. Kyle died so his estate had to step up. Kyle should not have tried to profit by falsely defaming Ventura's character. Kyle was well known for fabricating wild stories to make himself look good.
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