Ebola coming to a town near you.

[Rich46yo]

So it's growing already exponentially. Game over.

Yes. Some people cant seem to understand that, what with their little stats about heart disease and cancer and what not. We can prevent and treat heart disease and cancer. Even you can by not smoking and not eating like a swine. As for suicide its easy it prevent, just dont stick a .45 in your mouth and pull the trigger. With ebola theres nothing you can do, and its virtually a death sentence if the health system is overwhelmed. Now the cat is out of the bag, most of all in west Africa, and nothing short of a naval blockade will contain it there. If that even. Even in those men that recover the virus lives on in semen for two months after and we have seen what happens with sexually transmitted diseases in Africa with HIV. There is just no trust in health care systems over there and to little education.

So they get infected...and scared...and they see their one chance for life is a flight to a 1st world country. If one of our kids was that sick would we not do the same? And so far the reaction by the health care systems in America and Spain have been no different then the ones in Africa.

OK now we stop and give the thermometer to all visitors from west Africa. Well what do we do if the infected one we check has infected other travelers on the airplane flying in from other places? All its takes is a sneeze in an eye or maybe share bums on a toilet seat. And if the guy with the fever doesnt want to go into isolation who do they call? They call dummies like me who are now on the front lines of the ebola war and havnt even been issued latex gloves yet. So now we have to fight with a spitter, and they all spit cause they are in America and spitting at blue is apparently a right. So again another chain of ebola infection is created. One will become two, will become 4, will become 8. And on it goes.

Even worse with each new infection the virus mutates slightly and eventually it will become airborne and 1/2 of mankind will be dead. I know we cant discuss Politics here but its exactly that which is going to get us all killed. We have some clown running the show who is more worried about his legacy as co-King of Liberia then of his own countrymen. They keep wheeling out expert drones who say we are worrying about nothing and meanwhile west Africa is a Petry dish on a mathematical doomsday clock and its going to drag us all down with it. And the only safety net we have in place is a questionnaire and a thermometer.

How well did that work for Thomas Duncan? Who lied on the questionnaire after he'd been banging a pregnant girl he later discovered to be infected and he flew to America cause he was scared.

[CptTrips]

Ebola is not an airborne virus and you can't get it from sneezes or coughs. You can get it if you come into direct contact with body fluids.

Achoo....



 

[Wmaker]

The point of the cartoon I posted was the unnesseary (based on basically uninanimous conclusions made by leading experts/scientists of the field) hysteria in the US and in this thread for example. As I'm not an expert nor a scientist of the field in question (nor is anyone in this thread AFAIK) I make the logical decision to believe those who have so much more knowledge than I, instead of  randomly screaming SHEEET WE'RE ALL GONNA DIEEEEEEEEE!

...not that whiping out half of the human population, starting from those who consume natural rescourses the most, would be bad thing at all for this planet.

[Traveler]

Ebola is not an airborne virus and you can't get it from sneezes or coughs. You can get it if you come into direct contact with body fluids.

Your statement is not accurate, when you sneez or cough, you expell droplets into the air.  If you came into contact with those droplets from an ebola patient, you could contract ebola.  It's true that this version of ebola is not spread as an airborn virus is spread, such as the flu, however, when someone sneezes or coughs that person is emitting drops of body fluid, as well as air creating a spray of liquid, that liquid is body fluid.  How long that ebola can live outside of a human host is not exactly known.   The ebola airline passenger was in that seat did she cough, sneeze, did she then touch the back of back of the seat in front of her, the arm rests , how well do they clean the seats between flights, guess what, they don't.  Five other flights took place on that same aircraft, 5 additional people one from each flight, sat in the exact same cesspool that the ebola patient sat in.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Your statement is not accurate, when you sneez or cough, you expell droplets into the air.  If you came into contact with those droplets from an ebola patient, you could contract ebola.  It's true that this version of ebola is not spread as an airborn virus is spread, such as the flu, however, when someone sneezes or coughs that person is emitting drops of body fluid, as well as air creating a spray of liquid, that liquid is body fluid.  How long that ebola can live outside of a human host is not exactly known.   The ebola airline passenger was in that seat did she cough, sneeze, did she then touch the back of back of the seat in front of her, the arm rests , how well do they clean the seats between flights, guess what, they don't.  Five other flights took place on that same aircraft, 5 additional people one from each flight, sat in the exact same cesspool that the ebola patient sat in.

The Ebola virus stays virulent on surfaces for several hours and in human body fluids such as blood it can remain active for several days. So if someone sneezes with ebola, the droplets will remain 4 hours airborne in still air and be contagious. Airborne spray is also the studied method of spreading in the original host, primates.

[NatCigg]

Ebola is not an airborne virus and you can't get it from sneezes or coughs. You can get it if you come into direct contact with body fluids. The Dallas health care workers got sick is because they were not trained in using proper decontamination procedures. The reason why it spreads so easily in Africa is because they don't have the same level of hygiene knowledge nor the facilities to properly quarantine people who are exposed. This thing is not going to get out of hand in developed countries because we have better facilities and we can better isolate the disease *provided* people are educated correctly. We need a program to teach health care workers proper bio-protection protocols, and we need to make sure all major hospital facilities are trained on how to handle the virus. Dallas clearly wasn't and a grand total of 2 workers, out of everyone involved in treating the first case, got sick. Just two. Not their families, not their friends, not people they met on a bus, just the two that directly touched the patient's fluids.

Get a grip, this isn't a zombie outbreak.

Oh, and FYI, thousands of people died in the US because of HIV and AIDS related illnesses before the government did anything about it. *That's* what you call being non-responsive.

hindsight will be 20/20.  This problem is not over yet.  I would guess Dallas took there case very seriously and performed as best they could.  There practices were not good enough.  New protocol will be formed, therefore treatment will advance.  If there new method is insufficient they will have to try again.  If they contain and eradicate ebola from america, then we will have the upper hand. This has not happened yet.  

I thought the WHO said 10,000 new infections in africa expected.  

[guncrasher]

If this was your attempt to showcase your complete misunderstanding of the nature of the threat you succeeded gallantly! If drastic measures to stop Ebola are not taken your chart will have a new number one killer that's going to outnumber all of the other diseases combined by a factor of at least 10. Shove that in your pipe and smoke it.

So it's growing already exponentially. Game over.

well I'll tell you what ripley, since you dont live in this country but since there has who knows how many sick passengers on airplanes which could have already spread the disease all over the world.  so I'll worry when you begin to seal your doors and windows and wear a space suit when you water your lawn.

up until then  .  if in 21 days the usa is not longer here then I'll apologize. 

ebola jokes now:
Steve Jobs should be dancing right now.  windows dont have to be fixed anymore 
I am not paying taxes anymore, who's gonna collect 
I'll never know if my ssd really lasts 25 years    damn you ripley you made me waste 130 bucks.
we'll never see AH3 and if it they bring the sheep back 



semp

[Wmaker]

...and wear a space suit when you water your lawn.

Not much need to water the lawn in Finland at this time of the year.

But then again I'm sure if a world's map would be shown to you and "Finland" would read in place of (let's say) "Portugal" and vice versa, you'd swallow it hook-line-and sinker.

LOL

[guncrasher]

Not much need to water the lawn in Finland at this time of the year.

But then again I'm sure if a world's map would be shown to you and "Finland" would read in place of (let's say) "Portugal" and vice versa, you'd swallow it hook-line-and sinker.

LOL

it was just a joke man.  after all, some of my ancestors are from portugal. which is right next to spain. I even was friends with some exchange students that came from Finland back in high school.

I even have relatives that came from germany, heck some came from mexico too, imagine that  .


semp

[FLOOB]

Ebola is not an airborne virus and you can't get it from sneezes or coughs. You can get it if you come into direct contact with body fluids. The Dallas health care workers got sick is because they were not trained in using proper decontamination procedures. The reason why it spreads so easily in Africa is because they don't have the same level of hygiene knowledge nor the facilities to properly quarantine people who are exposed. This thing is not going to get out of hand in developed countries because we have better facilities and we can better isolate the disease *provided* people are educated correctly. We need a program to teach health care workers proper bio-protection protocols, and we need to make sure all major hospital facilities are trained on how to handle the virus. Dallas clearly wasn't and a grand total of 2 workers, out of everyone involved in treating the first case, got sick. Just two. Not their families, not their friends, not people they met on a bus, just the two that directly touched the patient's fluids.

Get a grip, this isn't a zombie outbreak.

Oh, and FYI, thousands of people died in the US because of HIV and AIDS related illnesses before the government did anything about it. *That's* what you call being non-responsive.

Actually that's not true. Lots of diseases that aren't airborne are transmissible by coughing and sneezing. As I pointed out earlier in the thread the flu isn't an airborne virus either. When they say airborne virus they mean an airborne organism, with airborne pathogens like tb or measels you need special respirators as part of your protective gear. A mouse, like influenza and ebola, isn't an airborne organism either, but you can throw a mouse around pretty easily.

[Rich46yo]

...not that whiping out half of the human population, starting from those who consume natural resourses the most, would be bad thing at all for this planet.

Sure, it would be just great. Unfortunately even if you and your family survived the disease, which some of you wouldnt, there would be a complete social break down. No electricity, no food, no heat, no running water, no Law, no medical care. Only the Law of the jungle, like something out of The Walking Dead. Sounds just swell.

I dont think this is going to happen but I think it CAN happen if we dont get on top of this thing and quit playing games with it. Kinda makes me wish I hadnt spent so much time looking into this virus thing. Experts for years have been using the word "when" and not "if".

[Wmaker]

Sure, it would be just great. Unfortunately even if you and your family survived the disease, which some of you wouldnt, there would be a complete social break down. No electricity, no food, no heat, no running water, no Law, no medical care. Only the Law of the jungle, like something out of The Walking Dead. Sounds just swell.

For the species that suffer the most on this planet right now (large part of animals), 100% due to actions of human race, it would sound like winning the lottery.

[Scherf]

So, what are we predicting, 15 million deaths in the US, unless the government, which is incompetent, takes extreme measures, which can't be trusted to take? Is that about right?

The Alex Joneseses of the world must be loving this - FEMA camps!!

[danny76]

I can't help but sit here and laugh at you all

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then either you have failed to properly grasp the situation, or you have found someone else to blame. Or you could be an eijit

[XxDaSTaRxx]

Alcohol, obesity, and tobacco problems are not centralized in the USA.  And in the end (God forbid), neither will be ebola.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you! Somebody gets it