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Re: Living in the country...with dogs...
« Reply #45 on: August 06, 2014, 01:42:21 PM »
I dont like to kill anything just cause i can.

That's kind of the dilemma I was in...I had no desire to kill them just because I had the green light to do so...it actually made me more apprehensive...on a couple of occasions I had a bead drawn on the male dog...and each time I knew they wouldn't be one shot kills...I couldn't do it...

Many years ago there was a stray dog running around the neighborhood...now I was living around many people but in a country type setting...the outskirts of town...now this dog pissed me off for months...one of them ones you turn your back on and its on your heals...anyway I had my fill with him when he was trying to bite my neighbors kids (older)...so I loaded a single round into my .22 and had a couple in my pocket...had no desire to kill this dog either so a single well placed shot was my goal...I could get within 5 foot of the dog...I walked up to him with his normal bristling of hair and deep pissed off growl...he turned to walk off and I put one behind his ear...no more than 6 foot away...and I guess I failed to mention I had a crowd watching this debacle...instead of dying peacefully he went nuts...and the sounds he was making were terrible...oh no I have got to stop this....I reached into my pocket and pulled out the extra rounds I had...dummy me had not loaded the gun...one shot one kill...I dropped the first 2 I tried to chamber on the ground and jammed the 3rd...my hands were shaking terribly bad...I finally regained my composure and finished the deed...I felt so bad and it kind of haunts me to this day...that poor dog...since I've never made the mistake of using a small caliber round to put down anything...

So back from the mists of time...I could not imagine popping that dog and it running up the hill home to die on my neighbors porch....Hell...how could anyone in good conscience do that...that is being a cruel monster...
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Re: Living in the country...with dogs...
« Reply #46 on: August 06, 2014, 01:48:09 PM »
     Everyone talks big until they have to pull the trigger.  :old:

That's right...and to dude who has so much problem with me not blasting them on site...did you see where I said my wife felt bad about my neighbor putting them down???...the dog wasn't going to get my child...his dogs were going to end up getting killed by my big dogs....
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Re: Living in the country...with dogs...
« Reply #47 on: August 06, 2014, 04:31:40 PM »
Harsh?!

I've been spending a lot of time with young cadets and drill sergeants lately. A tough, in-your-face-love seems appropriate. It is simple, all compassion and being neigborly aside, what is being prioritized is simple.

As for pulling the trigger, the few times in my life where I've needed to for various reasons, it has not been a problem. It is all about doing what is right and proper, and expected. An aggressive animal going after the family - in a heart beat. I was raised by an old fashioned cop who has spent the last 30 years trapping animals in the high Rocky Mountains.

Trolling? I've never understood what that term means or how my response would fit any bill. You asked, I was painfully honest. God, Family, Country, neighbors ratty dogs come in real low on that prioritized list.
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Re: Living in the country...with dogs...
« Reply #48 on: August 06, 2014, 04:34:18 PM »
Hard to do, but I'd side with the neighbor.

If you have calmly discussed the issue with him and he has given you the OK to protect your property and family (dogs and kittens included) then unfortunately, that dog needs a bullet.

I grew up on a farm and this is not uncommon. You're a better man than most for being hesitant in the face of potentially dangerous behavior and the blessing of the owner. Now if you were to put the dog down, just make sure it doesn't suffer. There's a big difference between putting an animal down and maiming/wounding it out of emotion or spite.

(losing livestock is an immediate bullet in my opinion because it WILL happen again, maybe a few chickens isn't the end of the world, but when you lose a new-born calf... we're talking your families livelihood)

He's given you the green light, time to go.

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A PETA solution:

Have your neighbor look at an electronic fence. Maybe the old dog just needs to learn the boundaries with some oomph!  Sounds like you're being very cautious and reasonable about the situation to me.  :aok
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Re: Living in the country...with dogs...
« Reply #49 on: August 07, 2014, 04:04:19 PM »
"So back from the mists of time...I could not imagine popping that dog and it running up the hill home to die on my neighbors porch....Hell...how could anyone in good conscience do that...that is being a cruel monster..."
 Not the dogs fault..so let us let it run amuck and damage our horse as it see's fit?? Really??
 Sometimes you just haveto man-up and do what needs doing.
 I'm sure you would dither your time away wringing your hands....which you did. You are fortunate beyond your ability to comprehend.
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Re: Living in the country...with dogs...
« Reply #50 on: August 07, 2014, 04:19:36 PM »
 Years later I lived in Calif, near Mt Diablo...Large property owner I knew well had herds of white-faced Herefords on his prop that he breed. Expensive cows.
 Suburbanites in valley would let Fido out at nite, to be with his buds.
 He and his buds would form packs. These packs would range up on this mans property at nite, chasing and hamstringing calves and cows, sometimes killing the animal slowly by many bites. Hamstrung ones needed putting down, by this man when they were found.
 In the morning they would go to there homes, were their fine owners would let them back in the house.
 He lost several head this way.
 He started waiting at nite in a jeep near his water tank, more than a mile from his property line, w/a calf tied out who would bawl most of the nite.
 The dog pack would come, he'd flip on jeep's lites and shoot as many as he could til they scattered. Many had collars w/id's and address'.
 The next day he would hand deliver the collar to the owners.
 He was roundly vilified throughout the near communities, the authorities indicated he was w/in his rights.
 Then came the morning when a pack of these 'pets' found a six year old boy in his yard, and killed him.
 Was this man a monster?
 In following months random dogs wandering about at nite became a thing of the past. Killing a boy was what it took??
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Re: Living in the country...with dogs...
« Reply #51 on: August 07, 2014, 04:22:21 PM »
There was a controversial case over here just recently where a farmer shot a dog dead while the dog was just standing a few feet away from its owner. Apparently over here any dog not on a leash is legal to shoot if it is on a farmers property or a potential threat to livestock. Made for an interesting debate in the local news media.
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Re: Living in the country...with dogs...
« Reply #52 on: August 07, 2014, 07:42:15 PM »
 Wow GS...years ago where I live now a man in his advanced years was shot dead by man who's dog he'd penned up, said dog was 'running dear' on old mans land...
 Shooter of old man walked...
 History of 'dog hunting' trumped??
 I would have put that dog DOWN, I wouldn't have liked it, but I don't like having to put animals down...
 That 'old man' advertised for owner...
 I WOULD NOT HAVE...
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Re: Living in the country...with dogs...
« Reply #53 on: August 07, 2014, 09:17:29 PM »
Why did the shooter go free after killing the old man?  :huh
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Re: Living in the country...with dogs...
« Reply #55 on: August 07, 2014, 09:49:17 PM »
     Everyone talks big until they have to pull the trigger.  :old:

Not true. Some people pull the trigger and never say a word.

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Re: Living in the country...with dogs...
« Reply #56 on: August 08, 2014, 08:58:11 AM »
Not true. Some people pull the trigger and never say a word.


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Re: Living in the country...with dogs...
« Reply #57 on: August 08, 2014, 09:58:50 AM »

        I should have said "many people".  :rolleyes:
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Re: Living in the country...with dogs...
« Reply #58 on: August 08, 2014, 11:20:22 AM »
We had a dog that would get loose in our neighborhood and chase us when i was a kid. My dad went out with us when it was clear nothing was going to be done to keep it in its backyard, it caught a croquet mallet in the face. Never saw that dog again.

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Re: Living in the country...with dogs...
« Reply #59 on: August 08, 2014, 02:59:00 PM »
"Feral" Dogs are another matter. You'll know a feral dog, or pack of them, when you seem them. And yes they are all over the country. They need to be put down and quickly. But the neighbors bird dog, or some kids schnauzer? Only a screwball would want to kill one for no reason other then he wormed out of a gate once.
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