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Offline nrshida

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Re: Mac's
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2014, 04:40:58 AM »
I don't know about the vary latest models but my late 2013 Macbook pro has dual graphics. It uses the Intel Iris pro chip on regular desktop use and switches to Geforce 750M when running something graphics intensive.


That's what I use for AH too  :banana:
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« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2014, 07:53:06 AM »
I assume your windows machines can run Mac OS , right? Haaaaw, haaaaw... I kill myself with this stuff.

Yeah actually people have been doing that for some time (ever since apple decided to run on PC hardware). Maybe you should get out more?

The only danger of running Windows on a Mac is that apple do not release power management drivers - so the mac will run at full tit and can get reasonably warm :)

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« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2014, 09:02:47 AM »
I'm skeptical of your claim. You're next probably going to say "using virtual box" . I'm not talking about an emulator.

I'd be less skeptical, of course, if I hadn't just researched the claim. You must be one unusual user.

Film, please... First case I've heard of this...

As for the power management: I also find this claim to be dubious, since a recent experience with a mem upgrade caused me to seek - and find-exactly that.
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« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2014, 05:26:54 PM »
I'm skeptical of your claim. You're next probably going to say "using virtual box" . I'm not talking about an emulator.

I'd be less skeptical, of course, if I hadn't just researched the claim. You must be one unusual user.

You're not very good at google are you: http://www.hackintosh.com/

And yes, I've run OS X up on a PC for giggles (about 5 or 6 years ago).

Typical mac user suffering a severe case of head-up-backsiditis :D

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« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2014, 08:50:53 PM »
You're not very good at google are you: http://www.hackintosh.com/

And yes, I've run OS X up on a PC for giggles (about 5 or 6 years ago).

Typical mac user suffering a severe case of head-up-backsiditis :D

Do-able, yes... I'll concede that. It's also not trivial -and that's quite apparent and is stated as such right on the site. "You can't just install Mac OS on any old pc and expect it to work..."

The exceptions prove the rule.

As for my google searching, try several variations on " run Mac OS on pc " . Everything that comes up is some one-off... "Bride of frankenmac", your little hackintosh site... There isn't a factory effort in site. It's one-off junk.

So, yeah, possible, but rarely done and sure as hell unwarranted and unsupported...

I'm sticking with "unusual user". None of your citation is even close to turnkey, much less widely practiced. I guess I should've qualified my initial statement, since I have and had little doubt that non-Apple branded hardware can run Mac OS. Critically, in the case of the Mac, running windows via boot camp is supported, right up to the point is crashes becauses of a windows bug. And my original question stands, can your windows machine run Mac OS? You did it for s'sand g's 5 years ago? Guess the answer is no, assuming you actually did it ( instead of just reading about it), unless you spend a little time and do some one-off work -because, as your own site clearly states ( see first point above).

As for me, we've got at least 8 nodes in this house, 3of which are windows machines, one of which I built. I actually like the idea that you can buy a kit and parts from a place like tiger and snap it together, but it's apples and oranges.
If that makes me a typical Mac user, so be it.

Waiting for that film... Load Mac OS on your current machine. I'll watch the hilarity ensue as you do the requisite Chinese fire drill to make it work. If you're actually competent, you can probably do it. Maybe I can put a stopwatch on you. Then I'll start boot camp and have windows 7 up in less than a minute. Then you might get that there's something called a critical distinction between my claim and yours :D
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Re: Mac's
« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2014, 12:21:15 AM »
Running OSX on a regular PC is illegal. Apple prohibits it in the license.
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« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2014, 04:46:03 AM »
That's a spurious argument. Guys like Vulcan do it as a matter of course - people have been doing that "for some time". See, there's really no diff between running Mac OS on a PC and running windows on a mac :D
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« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2014, 05:26:35 AM »
Running OSX on a regular PC is illegal. Apple prohibits it in the license.

Greed.

Over priced kit for those who have too much coin and no imagination.

I had a iphone it was not THAT good  :old:

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« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2014, 05:37:16 AM »
Yes and no, Zack. It's true that a MAc will not catapult you and Ben to the next level of existence. However, stop and think: if you don't need antivirus software on the MAC side, doesn't that enable more diverse "surfing"? And diverse surfing is part of the family destiny (as foretold in the prophecy), if I recall...

In the end, though, none of it will interfere with your unusual lifestyle choices, which is what counts. Consider, the last Windows wrench who visited Mum was a VERY unconvincing tranny, all of which is fine, so long as nobody soils the rugs, of course, but which led to some fun chuckles shared by old Mum and myself. She too lives windows side, you see. That said, I could probably come up with a vegan, a cross dresser, two dyslexics, an animal "lover" and a functional cripple if I head to the mall and visit the Mac store. I mean, who really wins that one?

So, in the end, yes, you mibght spend a couple of hundee extra Mac side. But if you can somehow feel morally superior over it, isn't it worth the price?

I once saw a fat woman driving a Lexus 450h with the bumper sticker, "Got Air?" on it. How much do you reckon was the incremental cost of that bit of smug harumphing?

All of which is to say, I get it, as I type this form a Dell laptop. I alos get the ease of use/no security/flexibility thing, which are real, as opposed to purely emotional advantages.
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« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2014, 06:30:08 AM »
I don't get viruses and I don't reply to emails i am unsure off.

Apple people rave on about security, when in fact apple even make them wear voluntary tags for fashion, security is gibberish.

If you get a virus you have been looking at mucky stuff or your a retard, i don't need a £3000 laptop to stop me getting a virus

I used to work for a company 20 years ago that were making boards for apples in the UK, when they found out they got all moody.

we make Big Macs in the UK now

If you get a virus reformat your machine it is good for your PC anyway the amount of kak that is stored on it
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« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2014, 06:43:28 AM »
I don't get viruses and I don't reply to emails i am unsure off.

Apple people rave on about security, when in fact apple even make them wear voluntary tags for fashion, security is gibberish.

If you get a virus you have been looking at mucky stuff or your a retard, i don't need a £3000 laptop to stop me getting a virus

I used to work for a company 20 years ago that were making boards for apples in the UK, when they found out they got all moody.

we make Big Macs in the UK now

If you get a virus reformat your machine it is good for your PC anyway the amount of kak that is stored on it

So to recap your story you don't get viruses on windows unless you do something with it and even if you do get a virus its all good because you get to nuke your pc to clear all the accumulated cruft from it.

Sounds like you were rooting for Apple there.

Apple is for people who have the money to pay for comfort and ease of use. Linux is for people who don't want to pay a dime but surf any site safely.

I personally use all of them. We have 3 macs, 3 pcs 2 of which run with Windows for games and 1 runs dualboot linux/windows. One of the macs is work use only 15" retina MBP, second mbp is my personal hobby workstation (photo, video, music production etc) connected to a 27" thunderbolt display and third is my daughters iMac.

Windows is used only for windows games basically. All serious stuff is done either in linux or osx.
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« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2014, 08:19:07 AM »
Rip, you're my kind of user - but I'm no longer enough of a wirehead to use Linux. Back in the day I used to use UNIX on an SGI, to date myself.

As for your statement about paying: exactly. How much is too much for those attributes? It's an individual decision.

People get way too emotional over this Mac versus Windows stuff.

Zack, btw, is frequently self-contradictory and likes to sandwich "things" in between layers of pastry. Above all, if he offers you something to eat, politely decline. He just can't abide rudeness.
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« Reply #27 on: August 18, 2014, 08:22:21 AM »
Rip, you're my kind of user - but I'm no longer enough of a wirehead to use Linux. Back in the day I used to use UNIX on an SGI, to date myself.

As for your statement about paying: exactly. How much is too much for those attributes? It's an individual decision.

People get way too emotional over this Mac versus Windows stuff.

Zack, btw, is frequently self-contradictory and likes to sandwich "things" in between layers of pastry. Above all, if he offers you something to eat, politely decline. He just can't abide rudeness.

I'm a bit partial on this discussion since all the Mac gear comes free to me through our company. If I had to pay for macs I probably wouldn't have more than the current iPhones and iPad. My business associate had to spend a good amount of time to convince me about macs - but now the more I use them the more I like them.
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« Reply #28 on: August 18, 2014, 08:40:36 AM »
I love mine. We've got iphones, ipads, desktops, apple TV, etc. Yes, you pay a little more but I love the flexibility and security. I've even cracked the case of a couple of them.

I once even had a Centris... and I even upgraded ram on one of the original imacs (pain in the arse).

That said, they're not all that. The Samsung phones are arguably better, as are the Nokias. There are better tablets out there as well. And you can customize a desktop PC for whatever you choose to optimize. Nonetheless, everything in the house talks to each other seamlessly.

We've got some windows stuff too. It's really much better than it once was. Ford runs on Dell, mostly.
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« Reply #29 on: August 18, 2014, 12:47:15 PM »
I love mine. We've got iphones, ipads, desktops, apple TV, etc. Yes, you pay a little more but I love the flexibility and security. I've even cracked the case of a couple of them.

I once even had a Centris... and I even upgraded ram on one of the original imacs (pain in the arse).

That said, they're not all that. The Samsung phones are arguably better, as are the Nokias. There are better tablets out there as well. And you can customize a desktop PC for whatever you choose to optimize. Nonetheless, everything in the house talks to each other seamlessly.

We've got some windows stuff too. It's really much better than it once was. Ford runs on Dell, mostly.

I was amazed how easy it was to set up the first iPhone and iPad that I had. I was initially annoyed with having to make a .mac account but once it was done everything just started working like magic. I set up a Nokia smart phone 2 years later for my uncle and the process absolutely broke my nerves. So yeah, you get something in return of the price premium with Apple.

I also love the intuitive and easy interface of many OSX programs I use. Omnigraffle especially has no match on windows side.
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