AoM vs The Damned 2v2 Skyyr/Kruel vs ChangeUp/Triton28

[GhostCDB]

I wouldn't agree to this format myself.

Yeah it does seem a bit sketch.

[TequilaChaser]

How am I instigating?



The instigation has nothing to do with me, in any event.

I would view it as trying to "flame bait", honestly

done with this part of the thread, ok  will not answer any more unnecessary questions

[Someguy63]

Only the third criteria is questionable.

I would have done cold passes period..no "anything after the first" kinda stuff.

[TequilaChaser]

I would have done cold passes period..no "anything after the first" kinda stuff.

that is a very questionable call, does one team break after both planes have crossed the 3/9 line or do they break after crossing the 3/9 line of their opponent's forward most plane only?

This is one reason I like to use the bracket attack in these 2vs2 competitions, it gives ya more space and a bigger view of the overall picture right at the merge

one thing I saw in the rules format that I , myself, thought should be there and wasn't is:

Once engaged you can not extend further than a set distance, with it being a 2vs2, I would probably say 4K distance Max ( or 5K distance Max once engaged ), to where it is normally just 2.5K distance for a 1vs1....

but This was all 4 of them's agreement for this particular instance...

just a thought regarding the rules format....

Please keep this thread civil, Thank  You

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TC

[Vraciu]

I would view it as trying to "flame bait", honestly

done with this part of the thread, ok  will not answer any more unnecessary questions

You are entitled to your opinion.

[SirNuke]

in a 2V2 cold merge the team that spreads out before merge will win.

[Debrody]

I would have done cold passes period..no "anything after the first" kinda stuff.

Same here, but it depends on the inner morale.

[JunkyII]

in a 2V2 cold merge the team that spreads out before merge will win.

Why?

that is a very questionable call, does one team break after both planes have crossed the 3/9 line or do they break after crossing the 3/9 line of their opponent's forward most plane only?

This is one reason I like to use the bracket attack in these 2vs2 competitions, it gives ya more space and a bigger view of the overall picture right at the merge

one thing I saw in the rules format that I , myself, thought should be there and wasn't is:

Once engaged you can not extend further than a set distance, with it being a 2vs2, I would probably say 4K distance Max ( or 5K distance Max once engaged ), to where it is normally just 2.5K distance for a 1vs1....

but This was all 4 of them's agreement for this particular instance...

just a thought regarding the rules format....

Please keep this thread civil, Thank  You

<S>

TC

keep it at 2.5K any further then that the fight is going to split into just 2 1v1s....at least that was my experience in the 2v2s I have been apart of.

[LCADolby]

Beifallführern Vs TheDamned

 

[Debrody]

One thought:
if the AoM/Few/TG/80th/JG-xx/LD/etc. posted every single match they have ever won...  
But as long as it is fun for both, why not?

[Changeup]

Why?
keep it at 2.5K any further then that the fight is going to split into just 2 1v1s....at least that was my experience in the 2v2s I have been apart of.

Seperation.  Lead ship has the angle everytime as well and the the 3/9 line timing is unmanageable.  Someone always goes through first.

You will see HOs and some Rams, lol.  Lotsa of victories by HOs.  Lotsa missed shots.  That's on Triton and I.  Fuel was a problem too.  Pilot discretion so if you run out, your dead.  First fight that happened.

The format didn't really matter folks.  What mattered is two ship tactics.  I encourage everyone to spend some time trying it.  It's different but generally the winner will be the guy who gets guns on after the merge at any angle.  They flew well.

Two 1 v 1s only happen if they stay in those fights.  They don't and we shouldn't have tried.  One move vertically, remerged, one turn, switch.  The more aggressive had spent enough E to not be ready for the E that had been gathered by the opponent during the switch.

[Zerstorer]

Only the third criteria is questionable.

Films plz, if thats possible.

I would have done cold passes period..no "anything after the first" kinda stuff.

Respectfully....Why?

A few links for you.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,357986.msg4745737.html#msg4745737

Specifically:

· General Tournament Rules

- All merges will be guns cold (no firing until you have passed your opponent's 3/9 line).
- All merges will be co-alt at 7.5K until within icon range at which point a merge break can begin.  Players should expeditiously climb to merge altitude.
- Anything goes after the initial merge.

The red highlights are mine.

If there is some argument against the use because this was a multi-ship engagement, let me point you to another set of rules.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,254157.0.html

In summary:

1.) The established dueling tourney ladder, used for several years, has not prohibited front quarter shots after the first merge. 
2.) The SDL rules did not prohibit front quarter shots either.

So again, respectfully, I ask the question:  Why would you both not agree to the provision?

[Kruel]

Only the third criteria is questionable.

Films plz, if thats possible.

Not sure if it's questionable now when it wasn't in the 5v5 post..care to elaborate?

[Kruel]

Yeah it does seem a bit sketch.

Again, I think this should have been mentioned in the first 5v5 post, you did post on there, why didn't the question come up then? Would you care to elaborate?

[Kruel]

One thought:
if the AoM/Few/TG/80th/JG-xx/LD/etc. posted every single match they have ever won...  
But as long as it is fun for both, why not?

Not sure, I haven't been around long enough to know, I'm sure results were posted in some SDL forum. Since that's not active, I am posting them here. Again, I ask the same question, why didn't you mention this in my previous 5v5 post?