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Offline RotBaron

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« on: August 28, 2014, 12:15:03 AM »
 :huh  what a week.

Preface: I never expected this to be easy. Matter of fact I know it will be a ton of work, some of it fun, some of it boring, some of it rewarding and a lot of it all kinds of other things.

First thing, I worry too much, always have, but there I was feeling somewhat confident, comfortable and most of all quite relieved that the week had finally arrived that I have been waiting for. Although I have a BS in CIS, I still had to do 1.5 yrs of science pre-requisites that my business degree didn't encompass. After that I opted to go the community college route instead of the university because of $, that meant a 2yr+ waiting list after pre-reqs.

Sitting in lecture and at break now comes along Debbie Downer and her pessimist accomplice; they spoke to anybody who would listen about how they failed the first semester and are re-do's.

Little info: Nursing school (here) a 76% is a C, at 75% is a D, which is a failing grade. The grade is arrived at by your test scores, and test scores must cumulatively be above 76%, regardless of how many points you earn on other assignments. However you still must pass those other assignment too, so in all basically if you break it into two parts, you must pass both parts.

That's all fine, good and as anticipated.

What was not, is Debbie and her warnings about how "they" (professors) are going to try to weed as many out as possible and that "20 of us (out of 80) will be lucky to graduate on time". To which I thought, wow, 75% attrition rate, holy moly  :confused:

So I did a little, research, per my state's Board of Nursing, collectively for all RN programs in 2011, the amount that graduate on time is 67%. I'm sure there is some portion of students in there that lost the feeling, never wanted to do it in the first place, etc. and up to those who just couldn't cut it. It would be pure speculation, but I'd assume 40something yr olds (39 myself) are more successful and account for less of that attrition rate than the 20something yr olds.

If you've read this far, you probably have some advice, so I'd appreciate any you might have. If your wife, family or friends are nurses maybe you could ask about how true it is they are really trying to weed good students out, or if they just want to see their students act and work like adults.

Suckitupbuttercup is my feeling at the moment, but Debbie helped to eschew a moment of pure fear and doubt in myself. I think I'll have to stay as far away from her negativity as possible. It didn't help that 3 other students identified themselves as redo's too.

I know it will be a lot of work, know it will test my patience, my will, and my testament to achieve.

Wish me luck if nothing else. 

Sorry kinda felt like ranting a bit too, that I felt duped into a racket; in hindsight 33% attrition is probably not that far off from most universities though.
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Re: nursing school
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2014, 12:54:52 AM »
Suckitupbuttercup

^ this, because worrying about it won't help anyone, least of all you.

Good luck.
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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2014, 01:10:07 AM »
Good luck on becoming an RN.. Ohhh Nurssssee! :neener:
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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2014, 08:10:40 AM »
You got this! :aok

My wife is a PNP now in private practice. It was a long road but well worth it.

She never showed any doubts that she would finish. She did adjust her graduation timing a couple of times because of class availability but that was all before the nursing program started. Once she was in that, she was in! Don't worry about the others.. you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned your age. It's a grown up's game you are in now. Some of the kids in that school just won't make it until they do grow up.

You'll do just fine.

On another note.. you should seriously consider getting your masters and your NP license after nursing school. The hours and pay are much better outside of the hospital world. 
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« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2014, 01:27:20 PM »
You have to put out of your mind all the competition and just focus on what YOU need to do.

It's not easy to do, I wrote all my professional exams thinking "Oh my God, these guys and girls are all so freaking smart" and worried that I would be a victim of the "curve".  I even had one guy get caught cheating off me in one exam, he was taken away about half-way through one particular exam.  I had no idea what was happening and was just "in the zone".  The guy who escorted the cheater out approached me after the exam and told me what had happened.  My first comment was "Boy, he chose the WRONG guy to cheat off."

But in the end it all worked out. 

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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2014, 03:25:44 PM »
Lesson #1.....you have to perform.....get out of this game and study...... :old:
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« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2014, 09:30:58 PM »
Thanks for the encouragement.

Time to batten the hatches. My stack of books is over a foot high...

I will play AH from time to time, probably mostly to blow off some steam/take a break every now and then; but you're right Canspec, I won't be  :airplane: much for the next two years.

I'm trying to get transferred into the one cc that does summer school after "block" (semester) 2, so that I can finish without having to take a 3 month break, I'm too old to have summer vacation  :lol

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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2014, 02:37:31 AM »
Do you know why to assess (feel/palpate (for pulse)) the carotid arteries one at a time (non-symmetrical)?

I didn't until the other day.

I know Eeyore would know, so he can't answer yet.
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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2014, 05:29:43 PM »
Good luck Rotbaron as  paramedic for the last 20some yrs I am actually thinking about the medic to rn bridge course they offer online. I am the same age as you and my body is finally telling me it is time to start thinking about getting off the street and work in doors. I know the nursing side of the courses I will not have a problem it is just all the other b/s courses ya need to do I will hate math and English comp. But if all goes well I will hopefully start this adventure after the Holidays plus another side note after I am done and pass  I can transfer to nurse gig at the university  I work for as a medic.
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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2014, 05:51:02 PM »
Thank you and good luck to you as well sir.

Having your agency/company find you a spot in a nursing program will be a huge help if they will do so. If you start the Associate's portion at the community college there will be waiting lists, Often, hospitals/healthcare contracting companies have allotted slots in those programs which are not available to the general public, i.e. it is a way to bypass the wait list.

That may not even be necessary if there is a Paramedic to Rn bridge; which it sounds like you are saying, and you can go for the BSN without having to spend time at the commcollege?

I'm not a big math/science guy, the one website that was very helpful in me finding professors for the pre-requisites that are reasonable/don't hide the ball/tell you what they want from you and what to study was: ratemyprofessors.com 

At that site you'll have to wade through some professor reviews that aren't helpful, like is the teacher "hot" lol, but you should get a good idea of prof's that students liked not because they were "easy", but rather because they were straight-forward and helped you learn. I earned straight A's in microbio, A&P's, nutrition, chemistry and others not because I'm gifted in that area, but because said professors were upfront about their expectations. 

Thank you for your service in your career too  :aok

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« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2014, 06:16:49 PM »
My wife attended the College of St. Theresa.  They did 2 full years in classroom study then 2 years of labs, and in-hospital experience at St. Mary's Hospital/MAYO CLINIC Rochester, MN.

She was a B+ student and worked very hard.  The ones that dropped out or changed major either A) Did not anticipate just how much nurses are expected to handle (FAR more than the 1980's).  A good 20% of students could not get past the dreaded "A&P" Anatomy & Physiology classes, dissections, and "icky stuff". 

If you are a strong student with good study habits you will succeed.

The ones that couldn't hack the science changed majors.  There is also two different other roads called A) "I partied Too Much"  and B) "I REALLY Have To Go To Class?"

GOOD LUCK.  The more classes you can take prior in HS for anatomy, physiology, learning some Latin, etc. helps.

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« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2014, 06:43:29 PM »
Thank you and good luck to you as well sir.

Having your agency/company find you a spot in a nursing program will be a huge help if they will do so. If you start the Associate's portion at the community college there will be waiting lists, Often, hospitals/healthcare contracting companies have allotted slots in those programs which are not available to the general public, i.e. it is a way to bypass the wait list.

That may not even be necessary if there is a Paramedic to Rn bridge; which it sounds like you are saying, and you can go for the BSN without having to spend time at the commcollege?

I'm not a big math/science guy, the one website that was very helpful in me finding professors for the pre-requisites that are reasonable/don't hide the ball/tell you what they want from you and what to study was: ratemyprofessors.com 

At that site you'll have to wade through some professor reviews that aren't helpful, like is the teacher "hot" lol, but you should get a good idea of prof's that students liked not because they were "easy", but rather because they were straight-forward and helped you learn. I earned straight A's in microbio, A&P's, nutrition, chemistry and others not because I'm gifted in that area, but because said professors were upfront about their expectations. 

Thank you for your service in your career too  :aok

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Ya the Paramedic to Rn Bridge Course is 18 months long and include's everything from what I am reading for and total cost is around or a tad over 10k so waiting til after the holidays to do this.

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« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2014, 09:26:06 PM »
Commendable career path, good for you Rot, it sounds like it'll work out well for you.  Keep that nose to the grindstone, it sounds from your posts that you're going to do great.

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« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2014, 07:58:16 AM »
Thank you Gman and others.

Week 2; it's hard keeping up with the reading, I'm not a speed reader by any means and there's so much of it. It has to be a lets see if you can figure out what we want from you situation.  :bhead

I did my CNA a couple years ago so some of this is review, but the amount of protocol for nursing/na staff just to walk into a patient's and ask questions/do routine head to toe inspection is vast.

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« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2014, 03:32:51 PM »
Best of luck!  :aok
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