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Offline SysError

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Re: nursing school
« Reply #30 on: November 23, 2014, 05:05:18 PM »

.... SysError: if it were as easy as regurgitating the lecture/lab info provided to us it'd be a walk in the park. It' much more difficult than that. They want critical thinking and application from us.

Exam questions are almost all case study based, i.e. a patient's info is provided a problem is presented and they want us to choose either (A) the best answer out of  several that are correct or (B) they want select all that apply.


Fair point, I understand.

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Re: nursing school
« Reply #31 on: November 23, 2014, 06:57:37 PM »
Semp: skirt scrubs are for muslim or other affiliations that don't allow women to wear pants.

Sounds like you have a deep interest in this; your local scrub store can provide you with some.

I own several going from extra small to extra extra large.  not sure the size of woman vising me :).



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Re: nursing school
« Reply #32 on: November 23, 2014, 07:56:18 PM »
What is the branding incongruity?

Glad you liked the quote.  :)


I had never heard of these guys before I saw your post.  So far I like – Pepper https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO8vBVUaKvk  And- The Shame of Life https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPOfn74MN0g.  I now know that these guys have been around since the 1990s, Dad is getting with it as my girls would say.

So when I think of a charted accountant or a trust adviser I guess that I have mental image that conjurers up a professional that is concerned about asset protection.  It is one of those cases were measured, non-impulsive characters are a positive.  Who Was In My Room Last Night?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNAkbbKycCM just does not convey that image.  Here is a sample of their lyrics:
  I wonder who was in my room that night.
 Who the hell was in my bed
 The boss had me that body there
 That's where I smelled some flesh
 It took a little time but I figured they were mine

Look at the video!  Does it need much explaining?

My guess is that unless you specialize in representing heavy metal punk bands/groupies, that a poster of:  Who Was In My Room Last Night? In your office is not going help hooking new clients.

BYW: what would you say that their best album was?  Was one guy responsible for Pepper and The Shame of Life?  Other tracks like it? (have not found one yet).


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Re: nursing school
« Reply #33 on: November 24, 2014, 08:25:47 AM »
I am hardly a Butthole Surfers expert, I merely like the song "Pepper" when it came out many years ago.  

So, no, you won't find any "posters" in my office.

I do have the two binders that were sent to me for the second STEP exam.  They are resting comfortably in their plastic wrappers.  :)

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« Reply #34 on: December 17, 2014, 02:25:19 PM »
Thank you all for the encouragement.

I passed Block 1 with a B+.   :rock   :banana:

This has been so much different than college, it's much more like job training, which I suppose that's in fact just what it is.  It's difficult somedays to figure them out and what they expect.

They say Block 2 is more difficult... I won't be sitting on my haunches this Christmas break then, gonna take a few days and go back at it even though it's only "suggested" reading.

Merry Christmas & Happy New Year

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« Reply #35 on: December 17, 2014, 02:31:05 PM »
WTG   :salute
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« Reply #36 on: December 17, 2014, 03:07:22 PM »
Thank you all for the encouragement.

I passed Block 1 with a B+.   :rock   :banana:

This has been so much different than college, it's much more like job training, which I suppose that's in fact just what it is.  It's difficult somedays to figure them out and what they expect.

They say Block 2 is more difficult... I won't be sitting on my haunches this Christmas break then, gonna take a few days and go back at it even though it's only "suggested" reading.

Merry Christmas & Happy New Year

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Yay!!

Congrats man.
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« Reply #37 on: December 17, 2014, 06:00:12 PM »
How long is nursing school in US?
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« Reply #38 on: December 17, 2014, 11:41:00 PM »
There's not a straight forward easy way answer how long nursing school is; the shortest amount of time one could do it post high school and while taking classes all year round would probably be about 2-3 yrs. That would be an 18-month program at a Univ. where at least a year's worth of prerequisites were already taken.

In all time combined and if all goes as planned, it will have taken me about 5.5 - 6 yrs to get a simple Associates degree. I have a prior Bachelor's but no science, basically started over. 1.5 yrs prereqs, 2.5yrs waiting list, 2yrs for Associate's degree.

If you're not too bored already with that explanation, see below.

In the US we have many different titles for our nurses; RN, Registered Nurse is the most common type and what most refer to when they say "nurse". RN is actually a license, they are registered by the board of nursing for the state in which they live/practice.

The minimum amount of school to be able to take the exam for RN's is approximately 3-4 yrs post high school, but it can be done with only a "two year" Associates degree. There's about 2 yrs of prerequisites, like Anatomy & Physiology, chemistry, microbiology, etc...

There is a waiting list in most counties in the US to get into the "two year" schools (community colleges); I waited over 2.5 yrs after finishing my prerequisites.


There is a lesser qualified degree, known as an LPN, Licensed Practical Nurse. They are becoming antiquated in hospitals and relegated to nursing homes (Long-term care); they mostly administer medication and oversee assistant nurse staff.

There are many higher level/advance practice nurses: Nurse Practitioner ("NP"), Nurse Anesthetist, Clinical Nurse Specialist's can all prescribe medicine in the US, and do so somewhat autonomously. Those are the highest paid usually averaging well over $100K after establishing themselves.

In all time combined and if all goes as planned, it will have taken me about 5.5 - 6 yrs to get a simple Associates degree. I have a Bachelor's but no science, basically started over. 1.5 yrs prereqs, 2.5yrs waiting list, 2yrs for Associate's degree.

To get around the waiting list, you could do it all at a University and probably find one that has a 3yr Bachelor's program that takes care of every qualification. Last time I priced one of those, Grand Canyon University, I estimated a total cost of $75k in student loans (that was after the automatic scholarship (good grades) they would have given me of $6k/yr.) <-- ouch

My current route will cost me less than one-third of that (I'm including living expenses too).

*for those fluent in Spanish (here), they can bypass the waiting list, because they are in "need".  
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« Reply #39 on: December 18, 2014, 01:35:17 AM »
Wow...
I finished nursing school 2010, its a little easier to explain how its over here. U apply for university and if your grades are good enough u get a spot. And after 3 years u are done. Bachelor degree in science is mandatory (and boring).
A fourth year gives u a "specialist nurse" title, u ca be a specialist in pediatric, intensive care, prehospital, surgery, anasteshia and some others. So most paramedics has 4 years at the university (plus often a number of years at the ER before they re getting into the ambulance.
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« Reply #40 on: December 18, 2014, 04:14:28 AM »
Wow, your ambulance paramedics are highly trained!

Ours are not trained as nurses. Here we have EMT (emergency medical technicians) and paramedics that respond to calls via ambulance; rarely would a nurse accompany an ambulance. Sometimes police will call for a nurse if the situation warrants less emergency response, but rather a neuro/psych eval, etc.

In my county (maricopa) I'd rather call the Fire Department, than an ambulance in a true emergency. Our Firemen here are all paradmedics, i.e. trained in advanced life support and can intubate patients and breathe for them. EMT's can not perform advanced life support unless they somehow have ALS certification; usually they'd go on to become a paramedic instead; better pay.

Can advanced level practice nurses prescribe medication there?

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« Reply #41 on: December 18, 2014, 08:57:35 AM »
Short answer is no with a few exceptions.
However there are an extensive use of "general prescriptions" in both ambulances and at hospital, which means that the nurse can decide to give a specific drug without calling the Dr first. Ambulances have a pretty long list of drugs the nurses can use that way.
In palliative care it is more or less "give what u need", there are no limitations in how often and how much i can give, its all up to me to decide.
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« Reply #42 on: January 28, 2015, 07:28:58 PM »
Block 2 is here (Jan20)  :banana:

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Whirlwind.... :O

A NP runs this block... high expectations. I hope that is a good thing and that she's good Professor. I'd rather learn from a highly qualified practitioner who has been in trenches.

IV insertion/regulation, NG tube insertion, phlebotomy and Tracheostomy care & suctioning practical on Monday, only two weeks to practice .  I guess they don't want us watching the SB...

I'll be much happier with clinicals in the hospital now instead of nursing home; much longer days though.

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« Reply #43 on: February 08, 2015, 11:44:19 AM »
I am hardly a Butthole Surfers expert, I merely like the song "Pepper" when it came out many years ago.  

So, no, you won't find any "posters" in my office.

I do have the two binders that were sent to me for the second STEP exam.  They are resting comfortably in their plastic wrappers.  :)



Curval:

I just came across this comment while listening to butthole surfers on a playlist (again, I am glad I saw and followed up on the quote, I like really like some of their stuff).  Thought I would share with you (but then again maybe you already know about the reference).  Just call me a middle aged white guy who does not have a clue....


"for anyone wondering, yes butthole surfers has a meaning.  heroin junkies would inject into their butthole lining to hide track marks, and because the rectum absorbs drugs really well (read: suppositories)."   :confused:
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« Reply #44 on: February 08, 2015, 04:31:45 PM »
 :huh

Yes or like Stevie Nicks, Jagger, Tyler who put coke up there because their nasal septums are gone.
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