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Airspace violation by Russia.
« on: August 30, 2014, 06:40:55 AM »
Russian state's aircraft have violated Finnish airspace three times during last week. It is pretty clear now that these violations are hardly accidental. Finnish Air Force has increased its readiness and has placed F/A-18s to Helsinki-Vantaa international airport to have a shorter interception distance to the Gulf of Finland region.

Contrary to the normal practices, Finnish Air Force has published a picture its fighter took of the Antonov An-72 which was responsible of the latest airspace violation which happened last Thursday:


Picture: Ilmavoimat / Finnish Air Force

Based on the register, the aircraft belongs to Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation.
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Re: Airspace violation by Russia.
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2014, 06:45:03 AM »
Russian state's aircraft have violated Finnish airspace three times during last week. It is pretty clear now that these violations are hardly accidental. Finnish Air Force has increased its readiness and has placed F/A-18s to Helsinki-Vantaa international airport to have a shorter interception distance to the Gulf of Finland region.

Contrary to the normal practices, Finnish Air Force has published a picture its fighter took of the Antonov An-72 which was responsible of the latest airspace violation which happened last Thursday:

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Picture: Ilmavoimat / Finnish Air Force

Based on the register, the aircraft belongs to Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation.

Not only that they're flying with a civilian flight plan despite being military planes. Poland just banned the Russian defence chiefs plane from its airspace after they changed the planes status from civilian to military on return flight.
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2014, 07:00:26 AM »
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2014, 07:53:50 AM »
Warm up the Brewsters!

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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2014, 08:02:08 AM »
What are the Russkies trying to do with that aircraft in the pic? Kill off the Finnish Air Force with an overdose of smurfy?
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Re: Airspace violation by Russia.
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2014, 10:12:52 AM »
What are the Russkies trying to do with that aircraft in the pic? Kill off the Finnish Air Force with an overdose of smurfy?

Test what FiAF response is, times to respond, try to listen radio traffic, etc. The plane looks the way it does because it was designed as a STOL transport. The high speed jet air flow gets deflected downwards to the direction of the airfoil (Coanda effect) increasing lift.
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2014, 11:12:39 AM »
Putin and the boys are ramping things up. 

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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2014, 12:03:24 PM »
That's no simple transport plane. Look at all those antennae sticking out everywhere. That's an ESM bird. When the Ilmavoimat intercepts it the FSB will scoop up all the "trons" in the air to analyze and help them defeat the Finnish radars and communications later. Same mission we're flying in the Barents Sea with our P-3's against the Russians, except our P-3's are military and not spook birds dressed up as civilian transports.
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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2014, 12:06:43 PM »
That's no simple transport plane. Look at all those antennae sticking out everywhere. That's an ESM bird. When the Ilmavoimat intercepts it the FSB will scoop up all the "trons" in the air to analyze and help them defeat the Finnish radars and communications later. Same mission we're flying in the Barents Sea with our P-3's against the Russians, except our P-3's are military and not spook birds dressed up as civilian transports.

My airplane has more antennas than that thing does.

They're Com and Nav antennas. It doesn't even have Wifi.

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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2014, 12:09:45 PM »
That's no simple transport plane. Look at all those antennae sticking out everywhere. That's an ESM bird.

No one said it was, as said it belongs to the Federal Security Service, former KGB.

...it's pretty clear that it is all intentional provoking. As Ripley said it was flying under civilian status and based on our Boarder Guard's investigation it was initially given a flight plan that would clip Finnish air space. It is said that it was "a faulty" flight plan but even Russians aren't that careless...all intentional.
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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2014, 12:11:25 PM »
No one said it was.

The Russians are trying to make it look like a civilian transport.
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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2014, 12:22:16 PM »
My airplane has more antennas than that thing does.

They're Com and Nav antennas. It doesn't even have Wifi.

I agree, the same antennas can be seen on civilian AN-72s. Modern aircraft tend to have all kinds of avionics. ;)

My response to Scherf was more in the lines of "general MO" in these kind of situations. No idea what is actually going on inside that plane. But as I said, it is pretty clear that it didn't fly into Finnish air space accidentally.

Link to a news article in English: http://yle.fi/uutiset/third_russian_airspace_violation_in_a_week_finland_steps_up_air_surveillance/7438235
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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2014, 01:57:20 PM »
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Re: Airspace violation by Russia.
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2014, 02:02:25 PM »
Everyone is daft  :rofl

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Re: Airspace violation by Russia.
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2014, 02:03:41 PM »
Everyone is daft  :rofl

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