Author Topic: JOUSTING! (Or learning how to shoot people down, first-pass, at the merge)  (Read 4926 times)

Offline Kingpin

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Re: JOUSTING! (Or learning how to shoot people down, first-pass, at the merge)
« Reply #30 on: September 02, 2014, 02:28:56 PM »
More BS.

That's all - nothing more, nothing less.

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Offline Someguy63

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Re: JOUSTING! (Or learning how to shoot people down, first-pass, at the merge)
« Reply #31 on: September 02, 2014, 02:29:49 PM »
This.

Also, if you do chose to fly with one hand behind your back,  You can't complain when you get beat. But that is exactly what is happening here.

Yeah I can't complain when I'm killed, but if I live and did so by HOing I feel no accomplishment of getting myself out of it. Would rather fly with a hand behind my back.
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Re: JOUSTING! (Or learning how to shoot people down, first-pass, at the merge)
« Reply #32 on: September 02, 2014, 02:35:21 PM »
When will people just accept that head-on passes are just part of the game, if it was against the rules wouldn't HTC implement a hit box that only applies damage behind the 3/9 line?

I had a 4v1 last night on the deck low and slow with a Yak3, Spit8, Yak9T, and a 190A, you're damn right I'm going to take as many of those red bastards with me (3) as possible. By any means possible.

In the time I have been playing I have yet to see 4 guys take turns to go 1v1 with an enemy. On the contrary, they are usually tripping all over each other to get the kill, all 4 going low after one, while 3 red guys come in high. If friendly fire was enabled they'd kill themselves before killing the enemy.

I only think of the same exact thing every other sortie lately.

Not just for the enemy, a couple friendlies this weekend didn't casually pass infront of me wrangling with a target, they parked their plane infront of me like a barge.  If ONLY I could, if only I could....
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Re: JOUSTING! (Or learning how to shoot people down, first-pass, at the merge)
« Reply #33 on: September 02, 2014, 02:41:29 PM »
I only think of the same exact thing every other sortie lately.

Not just for the enemy, a couple friendlies this weekend didn't casually pass infront of me wrangling with a target, they parked their plane infront of me like a barge.  If ONLY I could, if only I could....
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Re: JOUSTING! (Or learning how to shoot people down, first-pass, at the merge)
« Reply #34 on: September 02, 2014, 02:45:40 PM »
On the plus side, HOs make some good screen shots. The planes end up posed nicely!  :banana:


In this engagement I was using the vertical to deal with the I16's horizontal turning ability. I rolled over for a shot,  but it had more energy than I thought, pulled up into me abruptly. The result was inevitable. I think this may be the sort of thing the Hitech quote refers to.

Sir, I can only assume then that someone else is flying on your computer very late at night. You may or may not need to be made aware of this fact. Note the actions of the La7 on the first merge.
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Re: JOUSTING! (Or learning how to shoot people down, first-pass, at the merge)
« Reply #35 on: September 02, 2014, 02:52:37 PM »
I know the feeling... Lol


Ganging, HO ing, picking, vulching, ack hugging, so many trendy names for excuses, I just call them all part of the game and learn to deal with em.

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Re: JOUSTING! (Or learning how to shoot people down, first-pass, at the merge)
« Reply #36 on: September 02, 2014, 02:56:47 PM »
Lmao. Great. Just what we need, more BnZ p51Ds and 190Ds HOing and running away to the deck

I commened your, wanting to help fellow AHers. But this is just dumb.

This has to be the lamest form of "training" I've ever seen.

Its like training in Iraq to become a suicide bomber. "I'll teach you the skills to set off your very own personable bomb!! And guess what 72% of you will go to heaven for doing it correctly!!

Lol, what a terrible way of fighting this is.
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Re: JOUSTING! (Or learning how to shoot people down, first-pass, at the merge)
« Reply #37 on: September 02, 2014, 03:02:47 PM »
Lmao. Great. Just what we need, more BnZ p51Ds and 190Ds HOing and running away to the deck

I commened your, wanting to help fellow AHers. But this is just dumb.

This has to be the lamest form of "training" I've ever seen.

Its like training in Iraq to become a suicide bomber. "I'll teach you the skills to set off your very own personable bomb!! And guess what 72% of you will go to heaven for doing it correctly!!

Lol, what a terrible way of fighting this is.


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Re: JOUSTING! (Or learning how to shoot people down, first-pass, at the merge)
« Reply #38 on: September 02, 2014, 03:03:35 PM »
Fighting in a combat game?  You mean like competition?  That's crazy talk!  Thanks for clarifying that the game is really about self-promotion and winning at any cost.

Just how competitive is a player if they cannot avoid the opponent's guns from the start? I would argue that they were not very competitive at all, especially if they can be beaten with such a "noobish" tactic (to quote the sentiment of others). I contend that there's an art to jousting.

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Re: JOUSTING! (Or learning how to shoot people down, first-pass, at the merge)
« Reply #39 on: September 02, 2014, 03:04:18 PM »
Ok... who cloned Shane?  :rolleyes:
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Re: JOUSTING! (Or learning how to shoot people down, first-pass, at the merge)
« Reply #40 on: September 02, 2014, 03:07:05 PM »
I only think of the same exact thing every other sortie lately.

Just like when encountering anyone from your squad.  It's always a team effort.
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Re: JOUSTING! (Or learning how to shoot people down, first-pass, at the merge)
« Reply #41 on: September 02, 2014, 03:08:26 PM »
Just how competitive is a player if they cannot avoid the opponent's guns from the start? I would argue that they were not very competitive at all, especially if they can be beaten with such a "noobish" tactic (to quote the sentiment of others). I contend that there's an art to jousting.

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And how is it a fight if it ends before it begins?
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Re: JOUSTING! (Or learning how to shoot people down, first-pass, at the merge)
« Reply #42 on: September 02, 2014, 03:09:01 PM »
And how is it a fight if it ends before it begins?

The fight started the second your aircraft entered your opponent's sights.
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Re: JOUSTING! (Or learning how to shoot people down, first-pass, at the merge)
« Reply #43 on: September 02, 2014, 03:14:11 PM »
... did I hear Shane?   :confused:
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Re: JOUSTING! (Or learning how to shoot people down, first-pass, at the merge)
« Reply #44 on: September 02, 2014, 03:15:29 PM »

Ganging, HO ing, picking, vulching, ack hugging, so many trendy names for excuses, I just call them all part of the game and learn to deal with em.
I was talking about the 12 clearing BS