Author Topic: JOUSTING! (Or learning how to shoot people down, first-pass, at the merge)  (Read 4932 times)

Offline DmonSlyr

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Re: JOUSTING! (Or learning how to shoot people down, first-pass, at the merge)
« Reply #120 on: September 03, 2014, 11:15:14 AM »
I don't know....it seems to work fine for him, at least based on what I've seen to date.  Example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AosmWgMOvak&list=UUS3BgEUTkcTYy7FdYRB2U4A


Can't say I've ever seen him drop gear...but I see lots of dedicated Hog pilots do it so it's working for someone.

FYI - I think we covered HOs in my prior post...but hey, why not a refresher:

 :)

The rest I leave for Skyyr to address, if he so chooses. 

BTW...I think you mean to type "Granted".


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I'm curious, Violator.  Since you have listed all the things in Skyyr's "bag of tricks" that do not work.......have you fought him 1v1?


I've asked you the same question, Changeup, but let me ask again:  Have you fought Skyyr 1v1 yet?




Okay, I'll break it down.

1. In that film, not cutting his engine would have yielded the same results. It is stupid to cut engine considering how much it kills your E state, and seconds lost while it starts back up. (Keep doing it though please!). If fugitive would have simply pulled up into his own loop/rope instead of turning down, he may would have won. Killing your engine will ultimately cause you to stall heavily and if the person you are fighting knows how to acquire E off you, you won't last.

2. No, only stupid hog pilots lower their gear. They will not be successful vs another plane that can acquire E during the fight. Lowering gear will decrease your E tremendously and may be good if the person you are fighting doesn't know what to do. But against a hog pilot who does, they will easily out climb or high loop the F4U with gear down. Once you put the gear down, you have no chance of aquirung E against your opponent and you will be stuck in stall. Your only chance with gear down is if the guy goes right into a turn hard roll right from the start and you quick ability to slow down may help you get the kill against the less advanced.

3. HOes are for noobs who cant figure out how to correctly use ACM, so they go for silly HO shots to hopefully get the kill. While you may think they are effective, it is simply a silly tactic to use considering the % of time you both get hurt or die. If after the merge you both come around to HO position and actually shoot, that is just lame sauce. Anyone can shoot. That doesn't prove skill. If you fly planes like the 190D with supurb climbing and excel, it is simple to pull an easy head on shot and run away or pull into a climb with tons of E. However, my dodge techniques will beat you in your pull up, though sometimes VS a 190D of course it will out climb anything and may be more difficult. Learning the HO adds no skills, it just allows you to get shot down more for practicing "being good at HOs". The only thing you will get out of this is how to suck more in fights.

I am just writing what I've heard about the fights so far. I personally hate fighting people like this in the DA because the fights are boring as hell. But I'll still go. I haven't had the opportunity, nor has be considered from the past forum shout outs. But it  happen one day.

I know non of this works because I tried all that crap and was convinced too for a short time too when I was experimenting with the game

But you go on, keep doing it. I just know how to beat these technicalities.
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Re: JOUSTING! (Or learning how to shoot people down, first-pass, at the merge)
« Reply #121 on: September 03, 2014, 11:16:58 AM »
See Rules #2, #4
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"Such is the nature of war.  By protecting others, you save yourself."

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Re: JOUSTING! (Or learning how to shoot people down, first-pass, at the merge)
« Reply #122 on: September 03, 2014, 11:22:06 AM »
See Rule #4
« Last Edit: September 03, 2014, 12:58:57 PM by Skuzzy »
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Tours:
166 - 190
198 - 204
218 - 220
286 - 287
290 - 296

nrshida: "I almost beat Skyyr after he took a 6 year break!"
A few moments later...

vs Shane: 30-11

KOTH Wins: 6, Egos Broken: 1000+

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Re: JOUSTING! (Or learning how to shoot people down, first-pass, at the merge)
« Reply #123 on: September 03, 2014, 11:29:38 AM »
See Rules #2, #4
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Re: JOUSTING! (Or learning how to shoot people down, first-pass, at the merge)
« Reply #124 on: September 03, 2014, 11:36:23 AM »
See Rules #2, #4
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Re: JOUSTING! (Or learning how to shoot people down, first-pass, at the merge)
« Reply #125 on: September 03, 2014, 11:39:36 AM »
I will have to respectfully ask everyone to please stay on topic. Again, this topic is about jousting and affording others, specifically new players, the opportunity to become masters at it.

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nrshida: "I almost beat Skyyr after he took a 6 year break!"
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vs Shane: 30-11

KOTH Wins: 6, Egos Broken: 1000+

Mmmmm... tears.

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Re: JOUSTING! (Or learning how to shoot people down, first-pass, at the merge)
« Reply #126 on: September 03, 2014, 11:39:50 AM »
See Rules #2, #4
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Re: JOUSTING! (Or learning how to shoot people down, first-pass, at the merge)
« Reply #127 on: September 03, 2014, 11:49:42 AM »
I will have to respectfully ask everyone to please stay on topic. Again, this topic is about jousting and affording others, specifically new players, the opportunity to become masters at it.

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Yes I whole heartedly agree. The more new players who choose this irreversible fork in the road the better for me  :rock


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Re: JOUSTING! (Or learning how to shoot people down, first-pass, at the merge)
« Reply #128 on: September 03, 2014, 11:57:32 AM »
See Rules #2, #4

I will have to respectfully ask everyone to please stay on topic. Again, this topic is about jousting and affording others, specifically new players, the opportunity to become masters at it.

-=S=-

Apologies for the topic fork.  Please continue.   :aok
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Re: JOUSTING! (Or learning how to shoot people down, first-pass, at the merge)
« Reply #129 on: September 03, 2014, 12:09:53 PM »
See Rule #2
« Last Edit: September 03, 2014, 01:00:49 PM by Skuzzy »
"Such is the nature of war.  By protecting others, you save yourself."

"Those who are skilled in combat do not become angered.  Those who are skilled at winning do not become afraid.  Thus, the wise win before the fight, while the ignorant fight to win." - Morihei Ueshiba

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Re: JOUSTING! (Or learning how to shoot people down, first-pass, at the merge)
« Reply #130 on: September 03, 2014, 12:10:47 PM »
See Rule #2
« Last Edit: September 03, 2014, 01:01:00 PM by Skuzzy »
"Such is the nature of war.  By protecting others, you save yourself."

"Those who are skilled in combat do not become angered.  Those who are skilled at winning do not become afraid.  Thus, the wise win before the fight, while the ignorant fight to win." - Morihei Ueshiba

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Re: JOUSTING! (Or learning how to shoot people down, first-pass, at the merge)
« Reply #131 on: September 03, 2014, 12:18:43 PM »
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Re: JOUSTING! (Or learning how to shoot people down, first-pass, at the merge)
« Reply #132 on: September 03, 2014, 12:23:07 PM »
See Rule #2
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Skyyr

Tours:
166 - 190
198 - 204
218 - 220
286 - 287
290 - 296

nrshida: "I almost beat Skyyr after he took a 6 year break!"
A few moments later...

vs Shane: 30-11

KOTH Wins: 6, Egos Broken: 1000+

Mmmmm... tears.

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Re: JOUSTING! (Or learning how to shoot people down, first-pass, at the merge)
« Reply #133 on: September 03, 2014, 12:35:08 PM »
See Rule #2

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Re: JOUSTING! (Or learning how to shoot people down, first-pass, at the merge)
« Reply #134 on: September 03, 2014, 12:54:27 PM »
See Rule #2, #4
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