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Updating from Win8 to Win8.1 - anyone have any advice / warnings?
« on: September 09, 2014, 11:18:08 PM »
I'm preparing to update my OS as above - anyone have any bad experiences doing this, or is it OK?
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Re: Updating from Win8 to Win8.1 - anyone have any advice / warnings?
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2014, 12:05:49 AM »
I'm preparing to update my OS as above - anyone have any bad experiences doing this, or is it OK?

Windows 8.1 is a big step in the right direction, but most are staying with Win 7 and hoping Microsoft will fix their mistake of 8 with Win 9.

« Last Edit: September 10, 2014, 12:08:53 AM by Fish42 »

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Re: Updating from Win8 to Win8.1 - anyone have any advice / warnings?
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2014, 08:55:18 AM »
I'm preparing to update my OS as above - anyone have any bad experiences doing this, or is it OK?

I get a mixed bag. Some users say 8.1 is everything that 8 should have been originally, then again a couple of reports claim their user profiles got deleted during the update and all their drivers disappeared. If you do a fresh install that wont be a problem naturally. In fact it's probable that these problem users did a full install instead of an upgrade.
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Re: Updating from Win8 to Win8.1 - anyone have any advice / warnings?
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2014, 01:15:52 PM »
I've done it successfully to many of my customers. A teacher in computing had heard rumours similar to what MrRipley said and asked for my comments.

About deleting user profiles, I believe people get confused at the first boot after the updade which I haven't seen documented well in the Internet: You will be asked to log in with your Microsoft account. If you have been using a local account (like most guides other than Microsoft recommend) you may think your account has been deleted and you'd have to start using the M$ account. You don't have to! The way to get to your previously used account is highly misleading, but the route is very simple to follow: Just click on the link where it says "Create a MS account" and a form with many boxes for your data will open. DON'T fill in any of it! Instead, navigate to the bottom of the page where you should find a small font violet text over the dark purple background saying something like "I want to use my previous account" and click that. You're done! Note, there's no underlining to mark any hyperlink, only a short sentence written in a colour with minimum contrast to the background.

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Re: Updating from Win8 to Win8.1 - anyone have any advice / warnings?
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2014, 03:58:49 PM »
I've done it successfully to many of my customers. A teacher in computing had heard rumours similar to what MrRipley said and asked for my comments.

About deleting user profiles, I believe people get confused at the first boot after the updade which I haven't seen documented well in the Internet: You will be asked to log in with your Microsoft account. If you have been using a local account (like most guides other than Microsoft recommend) you may think your account has been deleted and you'd have to start using the M$ account. You don't have to! The way to get to your previously used account is highly misleading, but the route is very simple to follow: Just click on the link where it says "Create a MS account" and a form with many boxes for your data will open. DON'T fill in any of it! Instead, navigate to the bottom of the page where you should find a small font violet text over the dark purple background saying something like "I want to use my previous account" and click that. You're done! Note, there's no underlining to mark any hyperlink, only a short sentence written in a colour with minimum contrast to the background.

So to put it short MS further wants to screw its customers.
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Re: Updating from Win8 to Win8.1 - anyone have any advice / warnings?
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2014, 04:16:54 PM »
Windows 8.1 is a big step in the right direction, but most are staying with Win 7 and hoping Microsoft will fix their mistake of 8 with Win 9.



Supposedly they're removing Metro and bringing back the classic Start menu on the Desktop versions. From what I've seen of it, the new Metro design is also MUCH improved (it's actually sort of a hybrid with the Start Menu).
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Re: Updating from Win8 to Win8.1 - anyone have any advice / warnings?
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2014, 06:30:17 PM »
With windows8 I had many problems least of all getting my CH controllers working.  I found a work around to get them functioning in game.

I downloaded the upgrade from 8.0 to 8.1.  Installed the upgrade.  To make it short I had to go to a previous restore point in windows8 to get system working properly.

Windows 8 is a mobile platform operating system (laptops etc.)  IMHO it has no business being on a PC.

Very disappointed with windows8.  I expected better.
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Re: Updating from Win8 to Win8.1 - anyone have any advice / warnings?
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2014, 08:46:04 PM »
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Re: Updating from Win8 to Win8.1 - anyone have any advice / warnings?
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2014, 09:59:32 PM »
Supposedly they're removing Metro and bringing back the classic Start menu on the Desktop versions. From what I've seen of it, the new Metro design is also MUCH improved (it's actually sort of a hybrid with the Start Menu).
I don't know why people keep saying that the start menu is back with 8.1. I have 8.1, there's no start menu like in previous windows version. There is a button with a windows logo on it, and when you push it takes you to.. the metro screen. You can right click the button and it brings up the same menu that was already in 8.0. But no, there's no start menu with your program files and applications like previous versions of windows.
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Re: Updating from Win8 to Win8.1 - anyone have any advice / warnings?
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2014, 10:21:03 PM »
With windows8 I had many problems least of all getting my CH controllers working.  I found a work around to get them functioning in game.

I downloaded the upgrade from 8.0 to 8.1.  Installed the upgrade.  To make it short I had to go to a previous restore point in windows8 to get system working properly.

Windows 8 is a mobile platform operating system (laptops etc.)  IMHO it has no business being on a PC.

Very disappointed with windows8.  I expected better.
Yep. Windows 8 wants to turn your computer into a smartphone. It's another example of dumbing down a product to appeal to the masses and in so doing further alienate people like us. It's aimed at people who, if it wasn't for facebook, probably would have no desire for a home pc. Just as mpg became mpgs, windows 8 now calls program files "apps". Instead of accessing your programs quickly through menus and sub-menus. They are all laid out as big picture buttons on a big scrolling screen, you no longer need to be able to read to find the app you're looking for.
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Re: Updating from Win8 to Win8.1 - anyone have any advice / warnings?
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2014, 06:41:08 AM »
I don't know why people keep saying that the start menu is back with 8.1. I have 8.1, there's no start menu like in previous windows version. There is a button with a windows logo on it, and when you push it takes you to.. the metro screen. You can right click the button and it brings up the same menu that was already in 8.0. But no, there's no start menu with your program files and applications like previous versions of windows.

Context, dude. I was responding to Fish's comments about waiting for Windows 9, which is reported to have a dedicated desktop version that brings back the classic Start Menu.
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Re: Updating from Win8 to Win8.1 - anyone have any advice / warnings?
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2014, 08:19:56 AM »
Thanks for the input gents. My download seems to have gone OK, no data lost and I've had only a minimum of interference. Windows does indeed badger me to set up a "new" Microsoft account, but apparently I already had one, so it allows me to decline.
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Re: Updating from Win8 to Win8.1 - anyone have any advice / warnings?
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2014, 08:32:52 AM »
I don't know why people keep saying that the start menu is back with 8.1. I have 8.1, there's no start menu like in previous windows version. There is a button with a windows logo on it, and when you push it takes you to.. the metro screen. You can right click the button and it brings up the same menu that was already in 8.0. But no, there's no start menu with your program files and applications like previous versions of windows.

Just install the free classic shell and it works just like Win7.
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Re: Updating from Win8 to Win8.1 - anyone have any advice / warnings?
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2014, 02:25:48 PM »
I don't know why people keep saying that the start menu is back with 8.1. I have 8.1, there's no start menu like in previous windows version. There is a button with a windows logo on it, and when you push it takes you to.. the metro screen. You can right click the button and it brings up the same menu that was already in 8.0. But no, there's no start menu with your program files and applications like previous versions of windows.
Aside of some sneak previews I've seen concerning 8.2 or 9, there's two things that justify the expression of getting the start menu back. First, you can start Windows on the desktop instead of the Metro (whatever they'd prefer to call it today) where you'll have a clickable item for something more to click. Second, the little arrow in a circle instead of right clicking an empty space and then clicking the "show all" icon can be explained to be the new version of the "all programs" menu with each folder opened - not to mention the option to sort the all programs view by various filters. I'm not saying I like Win8, but they have brought it back a little closer to a long time Windows user. Being a Win95/98 native I also found the NT way of doing things rather clumsy and strange, but I must admit that some of the features launched with the infamous ME are among the most missed ones from XP. Novelties seldom are an instant hit, and they often suffer from childhood diseases. Things evolve, sometimes for better, often for worse, but in the long run the direction has mostly been upwards. We'll see about this one.