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New System Build
« on: September 10, 2014, 09:08:12 AM »
I'm shopping to build a new system and would appreciate any feedback on the current list of parts that I collected.  This system will be mainly used for AH purposes.  My budget is $1K, not including an OS.  The current list includes:

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($209.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.70 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB CMZ8GX3M2X1600C7R (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Micro Center)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Superclocked ACX Video Card  ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair C70 Military Green (Green) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.99 @ Amazon)

Do any of these parts need to be swapped out for others (i.e. use a cheaper CPU and/or MB for a better VC)? 
Or does this setup look good enough to carry me in AH for the next few years which includes the new AH graphics engine update that's just around the corner?
Also what is the better OS to run on this setup, Win 7 or 8?

Thanks for your feedback.
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Re: New System Build
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2014, 09:32:26 AM »
I'm shopping to build a new system and would appreciate any feedback on the current list of parts that I collected.  This system will be mainly used for AH purposes.  My budget is $1K, not including an OS.  The current list includes:

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($209.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.70 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB CMZ8GX3M2X1600C7R (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Micro Center)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Superclocked ACX Video Card  ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair C70 Military Green (Green) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.99 @ Amazon)

Do any of these parts need to be swapped out for others (i.e. use a cheaper CPU and/or MB for a better VC)? 
Or does this setup look good enough to carry me in AH for the next few years which includes the new AH graphics engine update that's just around the corner?
Also what is the better OS to run on this setup, Win 7 or 8?

Thanks for your feedback.
KOOL



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Re: New System Build
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2014, 10:22:49 AM »
windows 7


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Re: New System Build
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2014, 10:54:28 AM »
Better to pick a ram from the supported memory list: http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_ga-z97x-ud3h.pdf

Thanks MrRiplEy.  This one shows up on the gigabyte supported memory list and knocks off $20.
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($89.99 @ Amazon)
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Re: New System Build
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2014, 11:24:32 AM »
Kool,check that PSU,Corsair has some great PSU's but not all are made by seasonic!

  I know the TX line is made by seasonic,not sure who makes their modular psu tho.


   I am certainly no expert but I would think a single 12 volt line with more amps would be better than several 12 volt lines at lower amperage.

   I have the same MB and use vengeance ram with no issues although I use the cmz8gx3m2a1600c9 version.


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Re: New System Build
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2014, 01:00:40 PM »
get the Samsung evo 256 ssd.  I have it is really fast.



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Re: New System Build
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2014, 01:09:20 PM »
get the Samsung evo 256 ssd.  I have it is really fast.



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Re: New System Build
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2014, 01:16:11 PM »
Kool,check that PSU,Corsair has some great PSU's but not all are made by seasonic!

  I know the TX line is made by seasonic,not sure who makes their modular psu tho.


   I am certainly no expert but I would think a single 12 volt line with more amps would be better than several 12 volt lines at lower amperage.

   I have the same MB and use vengeance ram with no issues although I use the cmz8gx3m2a1600c9 version.


   YMMV.


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I couldn't find out who the manufacturer is for the Corsair RM PSU line but for $10 more the AX-760 appears to be made by Seasonic.  Plus it is platinum certified so I'm switching to the AX-760.  Here's the reference source I used:  http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/psu_manufacturers

Thanks for confirming the CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 had no issues with the same MB.  I changed to that version of ram on my list minutes before you posted.

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Re: New System Build
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2014, 01:31:22 PM »
Thanks to the Whirlpool PSU link, I added it to my sources. I would have recommended Tom's Hardware, but that was already linked in the Whirlpool list.

As for my opinion, your compilation looks quite balanced. Although no-one can tell what the new version of AH will need, that doesn't look like a waste of money.
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Re: New System Build
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2014, 02:47:21 PM »
get the Samsung evo 256 ssd.  I have it is really fast.

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The Samsung EVO 256 ssd is $112 more than the Crucial MX100.  Being $55 over budget already I don't want to take an additional 10% hit.

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Re: New System Build
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2014, 03:40:22 PM »
I like it, other than the RAM issue mentioned already.  It's a shame you can't stretch to 16gb RAM, or more importantly, move up to the 770 card from the 760 series, as the performance jump is significant.  Also, how soon do you need to build this?  nVidia is announcing it's new 9xx line of video cars in just over a week now, another 8 days I think, and the 7 series may likely drop in price a bit.  Certain 780ti cards are already having huge price drops all over the net, some 100 to nearly 200$ drops on newegg and ncix and the like.  So, waiting just a tad may, MAY, save you some $, and let you move up a tad in performance.



Also, regarding the Samsung SSD, I'm using Samsung 840 EVOs as well, and had the 128 830 EVO as my boot drive for a couple of years with no trouble, even running AH on it when I hadn't known it was recommended not to as due to small read/writes it's hard on them.  No trouble.  That said, the model you've picked will work just fine, Samsung has a pretty big rep for SSDs in the PC/gaming world, but that doesn't mean that other stuff isn't good either.  One other thing regarding HD, is that SSD the only drive you're going to use?  You realize I'm sure that after format, and then instal of Win7 or 8 that 256 gb SSD will be well under 200, and that they don't always run happy when squished right full.  That isn't much room at all, not nowadays.  Heck, my Steam folder alone is way, way over that, and it's not all that many games really.  I would say of all the things that could be addressed or changed, this is probably the most critical, other than making sure you get the proper RAM, (8 gigs WILL suffice IMO, just 16 would be a primary upjump should you be able to stretch or change anything budget wise).  I just think that unless you only are using this for very limited stuff, ie say just AH and maybe a few other games here and there, that you'll soon run out of space.  Many guys add a spinner 7200 rpm  drive to similar builds, you can get a 1tb drive for 50 or 60 bucks if you look around, and you'll be glad you added it IMO.

Your case - Bravo to you.  I bought a C70 Black the first day they came out.  I'm a huge Corsair fan boy, and have supported their stuff forever.  You'll love that case, it's tough, solid, and has nice rubber spring loaded handles on the top, which makes moving it around a snap, where as nearly every other case has no handles and needs to be picked up from the bottom, a pita a lot of the time IMO.  If you can swing another 20$ or so pick up another 2 case fans, there is ample room for them and it'll help your temps a great deal if you're going to o/c either your CPU or your GPU.  Corsair PSU's are great as well, similar to Samsung and the SSD's, SeaSonic has "the" rep for PSU's, but Corsair PSU's that aren't already mostly manufactured by Seasonic are equally well made and reliable IMO.  I'm using an 850 modular and a 1050 as well from Corsair, and I've had excellent luck with both for a couple years now.

Overall, very solid build, with some different/better RAM.  Win 7 or 8 is personal pref IMO, I would pick 7 myself, but 8.1 will work just fine as well, it's just different is all, and mainly networky types are the ones who dislike it greatly.  Again, I would try and wait just a week or two and see what nVidia's new stuff brings in terms of price reductions, as by October it's likely the 9xx cards will be selling instead of the 7xx as the frontrunners, so a good 770 card will quite possibly be in your sights, and one of those o/c a bit with that CPU o/c'd will work well with virtually any game you throw at it right now.
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Re: New System Build
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2014, 03:47:32 PM »
Gman, Corsair does not manufacture, nor design, their power supplies.  They buy them from Seasonic, and others.  Open them up, side by side, and they are identical to many different resellers of power supplies (Thermaltake, Antec, and so on).

Just letting you know.
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Re: New System Build
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2014, 03:55:29 PM »
I guess it depends which models and when they were made.  Channel Wells built a significant number of PSU's for Corsair until a few years ago.  Whoever Corsair uses for their PSUs and many other components which they don't build in a factory themselves have always made decent quality products IMO, the only problem I ever had was a 100i water cooler that got noisy, very noisy, and it was replaced no questions asked.



People get too wound out over the "Seasonic" brand IMO, as good as they are, it's as though they are the only company that has ever built a reliable PSU unit.  In at least 30 different gaming PCs I've had since my first 286, I've never, ever, had a single PSU fail in any system, and I'm sure over 1/2 of them were made by a company other than Seasonic.

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Re: New System Build
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2014, 04:07:23 PM »
I was not saying Seasonic is best.  I was just saying Corsair does not manufacture their power supplies.  They have several different manufacturer's making supplies for them.  That is all.

Personally, if I am asked to recommend a supply, then right now, I will recommend Seasonic.  That does not mean the Corsair branded Seasonic supplies are not just as good.  They are identical, as a matter of fact, except for the external aesthetics.
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Re: New System Build
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2014, 04:09:11 PM »
I understand that, the Seasonic statement had nothing to do with your post, it's just a general overall sentiment from dozens of hardware sites like Toms, O/C.net, O/C UK, and the like.  That is all.