Video card suggestion

[Delirium]

My system is almost 4 years old now and it is starting to show its age. I was thinking about finally overclocking the CPU (the profiles are still in bios from when it was built) and I was considering buying a new video card but I'm not sure which one would be the best for my situation. My motherboard only supports up to PCI-E 2.0 X16.

This minor upgrade just needs to buy me about a year of AH. At that time I will plan on buying a new system.

 

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU         920  @ 2.67GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.7GHz
Memory: 6144MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 6136MB RAM
Page File: 2051MB used, 10216MB available
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460
Display Memory: 3535 MB
Dedicated Memory: 723 MB
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Thermaltake Toughpower PSU 750W
+3.3@30A,+5V@28A,+12V1@18A,+12V2@18A,+12V3@18A,+12V4@18A,-12V@0.8A,+5VSB@3A

[Bizman]

Since you seem to be into nVidia, something like a GTX 760 or 770 might be what you're looking for, depending on your budget. I suppose a 2 GB version would be more preferable in the long run than a 1 GB one. Can't tell whether your CPU would cause a bottleneck or not, but in any case that won't cause any major issues. Your PSU is tough enough for both of those.  PCI-e 2.0 should also be compatible both up- and downwards, so no problems in that direction either. Take a look at http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html to find the best bang for your buck.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Since you seem to be into nVidia, something like a GTX 760 or 770 might be what you're looking for, depending on your budget. I suppose a 2 GB version would be more preferable in the long run than a 1 GB one. Can't tell whether your CPU would cause a bottleneck or not, but in any case that won't cause any major issues. Your PSU is tough enough for both of those.  PCI-e 2.0 should also be compatible both up- and downwards, so no problems in that direction either. Take a look at http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html to find the best bang for your buck.

Yes definitely a 2Gb version of 760 or 770. That computer should never have been built with a low-end card like that, it's been bottlenecked all these years. If money was the issue you should have bought a cheaper CPU/mobo/ram and at least mid-level graphics card.

[Bino]

Ever actually seen Del fly AH on that rig in the MA?  Sure doesn't seem like it's hampered him.   

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Ever actually seen Del fly AH on that rig in the MA?  Sure doesn't seem like it's hampered him.   

AH hasn't been able to take advantage of graphics capabilities so it was not affected, but most other recent game titles he may have played have.

[Delirium]

I don't see a 760 or a 770 that is PCI-E 2.0 compatible. Would it be worth it to get a cheaper card considering the 2.0 will hamper the 3.0 based card?

[MrRiplEy[H]]

I don't see a 760 or a 770 that is PCI-E 2.0 compatible. Would it be worth it to get a cheaper card considering the 2.0 will hamper the 3.0 based card?

All cards are backwards compatible. A 770 can't even fully use the 2.0 bus don't worry.

[morfiend]

 Del,

  If it was me I'd wait a couple weeks and grab a 780 titan when they reduce the prices!

  The price has already dropped on rumours,I see titans being about the same price as the 760/770's are now!

   I mean you could wait till after September,oh the 30th or so.....



   

PS:  It will be a great loss to AHTC!

[Chalenge]

All cards are backwards compatible. A 770 can't even fully use the 2.0 bus don't worry.

More correctly, the same PCIe bottleneck exists in either version. PCIe is a performance drain for these cards. The GPUs in these cards are the largest chips in the world and could easily flood either bus, but they are designed not to. The goal of Nvidia is to come up with a way to get around the interface. So, we wait to see what Maxwell does, and then Pascal will probably by the true solution (fingers crossed).

[MrRiplEy[H]]

More correctly, the same PCIe bottleneck exists in either version. PCIe is a performance drain for these cards. The GPUs in these cards are the largest chips in the world and could easily flood either bus, but they are designed not to. The goal of Nvidia is to come up with a way to get around the interface. So, we wait to see what Maxwell does, and then Pascal will probably by the true solution (fingers crossed).

Please don't confuse people. It's enough to say the cards do not need a faster PCI-E bus. I just hate it when people waste their money with urban legends or misunderstandings such as 'a pci-e 3.0 compatible card absolutely has to have a 3.0 motherboard'.

[Chalenge]

Please don't confuse people. It's enough to say the cards do not need a faster PCI-E bus. I just hate it when people waste their money with urban legends or misunderstandings such as 'a pci-e 3.0 compatible card absolutely has to have a 3.0 motherboard'.

I think that the only person here that is confused is you in that you have repeatedly made the same mistake, which demonstrates you do not understand the technology. What I said is very clear and accurate.

[Chalenge]

Del, you might want to read this over at Anandtech:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8426/the-intel-haswell-e-cpu-review-core-i7-5960x-i7-5930k-i7-5820k-tested/6

[MrRiplEy[H]]

I think that the only person here that is confused is you in that you have repeatedly made the same mistake, which demonstrates you do not understand the technology. What I said is very clear and accurate.

Stop the personal attacks. I have made no mistake, it's 100% fact that a current gen single graphics card does not saturate the PCI-E 2.0 x16 bus. End of story.

If anything, you demonstrate that you don't understand the technology, otherwise you'd know that the current generation cards use offloading to circumvent the limitations of the PCI-E bus. There's absolutely no need to confuse anyone with PCI-E 3.0. Spending money to a new 3.0 compliant motherboard would be wasted money, nothing else. Even the performance gain from the new CPU would be marginal considering the user aims to get a mid-tier card.

It's laughable to even suggest that a 6fps increase (according to your article) would be worth a 600-700 dollar extra investment lol. 100 bucks a frame/s. Maybe that's a great deal to you who knows

[Max]

Del I did a rebuild a few months back with an EVGA GTX760 2 G. $235 from Newegg. I'm very happy with it.

[Bino]

So, more details.  What's in the rumor pipeline? 

I've been drooling over that liquid cooled Radeon R9 295x2.   

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  If it was me I'd wait a couple weeks and grab a 780 titan when they reduce the prices!

  The price has already dropped on rumours,I see titans being about the same price as the 760/770's are now!

   I mean you could wait till after September,oh the 30th or so.....
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