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Offline Chalenge

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We need a true early war tank
« on: September 20, 2014, 03:49:06 PM »
I wish for the Char B1/B1 bis.
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Re: We need a true early war tank
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2014, 03:53:32 PM »
Britsh Matilda
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Re: We need a true early war tank
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2014, 04:08:17 PM »
Should be one per nationality, if such a project is undertaken:

Germany:


Panzer III

Great Britain:


Matilda II

Russia:


BT-7

Italy:


M13/40

Japan:


Type 97 ShinHoTo Chi-Ha

U.S.


M-3 Stuart
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Re: We need a true early war tank
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2014, 04:13:55 PM »
At any rate the Matilda is extremely slow, so you must mean Matilda II?

Hey, Arlo. Post up any plan view drawings you have of those tanks. Useful drawings that is. I have the Panzer complete line already, but not the others.
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Re: We need a true early war tank
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2014, 04:28:05 PM »
Quote from: Chalenge on September 20, 2014, 04:13:55 PM
At any rate the Matilda is extremely slow, so you must mean Matilda II?

Hey, Arlo. Post up any plan view drawings you have of those tanks. Useful drawings that is. I have the Panzer complete line already, but not the others.











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Offline Chalenge

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Re: We need a true early war tank
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2014, 04:56:18 PM »
Excellent!
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Re: We need a true early war tank
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2014, 09:24:47 PM »
Early war AAA & tank destroyer.



















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Offline Chalenge

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Re: We need a true early war tank
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2014, 12:26:06 AM »
Nice! I wish the scans were a lot bigger (1:1), but I understand beggars can't be choosers.
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Re: We need a true early war tank
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2014, 07:53:26 PM »
Okay, I have to call it.  It's OBVIOUS that Alro has managed to hack lyric's stuff.  No way anyone would have more stuff about stuff than lyric. :noid


Also: +1 for EW tanks! :rock
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Re: We need a true early war tank
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2014, 08:59:23 PM »
In terms of survivability, and versatility, the Panzer III would be the best bet.

The Matilda was armored enough to shrug off all early war AT guns with exception to the 88mm.  The thing about the Matilda that people need to remember is that was extremely slow, had a pea shooter of a gun adequate for early way and ONLY early war.
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Offline Chalenge

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Re: We need a true early war tank
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2014, 09:24:35 PM »
It's not a question of survivability I think. I believe it is more important to get Early War fleshed out, and to move the Mid War T-34/76 to where it belongs.
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Re: We need a true early war tank
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Re: We need a true early war tank
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2014, 12:39:13 AM »
Matilda armor would make it only killable by bombs... Not sure thats a good idea here.
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Re: We need a true early war tank
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2014, 01:01:04 AM »
Quote from: Lucifer on September 24, 2014, 12:39:13 AM
Matilda armor would make it only killable by bombs... Not sure thats a good idea here.

Really?  What is the armor thickness and slope on the Matilda?
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Offline Chalenge

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Re: We need a true early war tank
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2014, 02:36:14 AM »
Not sure, but it is rumored that Rommel personally directed the anti-tank guns against them when the Panzers could not punch through the armor. I think they had a similar problem with the B1-bis. Both the 4th and 7th RTR claimed that their tanks had superior armor to the B1-bis (Battles of Arras 21 May 1940), but I don't know how they figured that out.
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