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Re: Hammerhead Torque/Flick Roll Thingy
« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2014, 12:18:08 PM »
OK I got all that, but the question is - how many MIGs have you shot down in real life?

Thanks to all for the helpful information.  I struggle to perform a "proper" hammerhead in my trusty battle boat.
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Re: Hammerhead Torque/Flick Roll Thingy
« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2014, 12:39:21 PM »
I'm pretty sure this is the Training topics for AH, not for real life. So real life flying doesn't direclty correlate with flying in AH.

All this coming from a dude who cuts his engine hahaha
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Re: Hammerhead Torque/Flick Roll Thingy
« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2014, 12:56:34 PM »
Please, quote your source for where a true hammerhead requires ANY throttle work for the maneuver itself (not the portion where you reduce throttle after the fact to manage airspeed).

Williams, Neil (2003) [First published 1975]. Aerobatics. Marlborough, UK: Crowood Press. ISBN 9780950454306.

" ... we apply the rudder as the speed falls through 50 knots and we apply about half rudder quite smartly, at the same time throttling back to half power."

" On some aeroplanes, which have a large and powerful engine, and a short fuselage and span, if the power is left on... the aircraft will roll uncontrollably."


Neil Williams taught himself aerobatics in a Tiger Moth. My dad had a Tiger Moth. Here's an old picture. He's taking off from the glider museum in Elmira NY where he gave a talk on flying wing design along with Rudy Opitz, Karl Nickel, Paul McCready and others. My dad learned about flying wing design from Reimar Horton and talked Reimar into writing the book "Nurflugel". The B2 design team bought 7 copies.


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Re: Hammerhead Torque/Flick Roll Thingy
« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2014, 12:59:55 PM »
I'm pretty sure this is the Training topics for AH, not for real life. So real life flying doesn't direclty correlate with flying in AH.

What's truly awesome about Aces High is the degree to which flying in AH does correlate to real flying. 

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Re: Hammerhead Torque/Flick Roll Thingy
« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2014, 01:09:33 PM »
See Rule #4
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Re: Hammerhead Torque/Flick Roll Thingy
« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2014, 01:14:33 PM »
Those are two different quotes for two different aircraft. The 50% is for a Stampf. There are more quotes available including quotes for power off completely. Buy the book, learn something new.

Here's my challenge for you. Try posting helpful information without insults or self promotion.

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Re: Hammerhead Torque/Flick Roll Thingy
« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2014, 01:15:18 PM »
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What's truly awesome about Aces High is the degree to which flying in AH does correlate to real flying.  
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Which is why I am still playing this game and not the others :)

I've actually never had the opportunity to fly a real plane. But as far away engine startup procedures and navigation and such, I'm glad this game doesn't have all that. I figured flight dynamics and stall may be a little different I'm today's planes so that's why I made that accusation.  Love the flight model in this game though.

That's why generally most things I write tend to soley be based on flying performance in this game alone.
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Re: Hammerhead Torque/Flick Roll Thingy
« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2014, 01:15:53 PM »
See Rule #4
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Re: Hammerhead Torque/Flick Roll Thingy
« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2014, 01:25:40 PM »
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Re: Hammerhead Torque/Flick Roll Thingy
« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2014, 01:32:25 PM »
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Re: Hammerhead Torque/Flick Roll Thingy
« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2014, 01:40:02 PM »
For the sake of those wanting to learn (example the OP) -  this is the help and training forum.  Check your ego at the door and put a filter on your keyboard.
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Re: Hammerhead Torque/Flick Roll Thingy
« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2014, 01:43:01 PM »
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Re: Hammerhead Torque/Flick Roll Thingy
« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2014, 01:52:52 PM »
See Rule #4
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Re: Hammerhead Torque/Flick Roll Thingy
« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2014, 02:18:47 PM »
Please post the quotes where I say cutting your engine does nothing and aerobatic hammerheads are easy.

Thanks.


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Re: Hammerhead Torque/Flick Roll Thingy
« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2014, 03:10:32 PM »
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