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? for those who use high graphics settings
« on: September 29, 2014, 03:25:39 AM »
I ordered this today, should I expect to run a fair amount of eye candy and still get a good frame rate?

CPU: Intel(R) Core™ i7-4790K 4.0 GHz 8MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1150

VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4GB GDDR5 PCIe 3.0 x16 Video Card (Maxwell)

CASE: NZXT Source 530 w/ USB 3.0, 10-port fan hub, Side-Panel Window [+39]

CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)

FAN: Corsair Hydro Series H60 High Performance Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Single Standard 120MM Fan)

CS_FAN: Enermax TB Silence UCTB14 140mm Performance Cooling with Low Noise Profile Fan [+39]

STORAGE: 256GB ADATA SP610 SSD + 2TB SATA III Hard Drive Combo [+107] (Single Drive)

MEMORY: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR3/1866MHz Dual Channel Memory [+100] (ADATA XPG V2)

MOTHERBOARD: ASUS Z97-K ATX w/ Intel GbLAN, 2 PCIe x16, 2 PCIe x1, 2 PCI, 1 x M.2, 6x SATA 6Gb/s [+3]

OS: Microsoft(R) Windows 8.1 (64-bit Edition)

POWERSUPPLY: 800 Watts - Standard 80 Plus Certified Power

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WIRELESS: 802.11b/g/n 300Mbps PCI Wireless Adapter Network Card [+26]
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Re: ? for those who use high graphics settings
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2014, 04:32:16 AM »
I ordered this today, should I expect to run a fair amount of eye candy and still get a good frame rate?

CPU: Intel(R) Core™ i7-4790K 4.0 GHz 8MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1150

VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4GB GDDR5 PCIe 3.0 x16 Video Card (Maxwell)

CASE: NZXT Source 530 w/ USB 3.0, 10-port fan hub, Side-Panel Window [+39]

CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)

FAN: Corsair Hydro Series H60 High Performance Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Single Standard 120MM Fan)

CS_FAN: Enermax TB Silence UCTB14 140mm Performance Cooling with Low Noise Profile Fan [+39]

STORAGE: 256GB ADATA SP610 SSD + 2TB SATA III Hard Drive Combo [+107] (Single Drive)

MEMORY: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR3/1866MHz Dual Channel Memory [+100] (ADATA XPG V2)

MOTHERBOARD: ASUS Z97-K ATX w/ Intel GbLAN, 2 PCIe x16, 2 PCIe x1, 2 PCI, 1 x M.2, 6x SATA 6Gb/s [+3]

OS: Microsoft(R) Windows 8.1 (64-bit Edition)

POWERSUPPLY: 800 Watts - Standard 80 Plus Certified Power

Internal USB 6-PORT Expansion Module [+19]

WIRELESS: 802.11b/g/n 300Mbps PCI Wireless Adapter Network Card [+26]

That system will rock as long as you used components that were approved (mainly the ram modules). If you don't plan to overclock, a 1150 Xeon can actually be cheaper than the i7. 1150 Xeons are pretty much i7:s without the integrated GPU but they can't be overclocked.
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Re: ? for those who use high graphics settings
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2014, 04:33:39 AM »
Not going to overclock.
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Re: ? for those who use high graphics settings
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2014, 04:44:42 AM »
Not going to overclock.

In that case you can save some money by getting a non-K model cpu or even a xeon. The K models are multiplier unlocked and carry a price premium. If you won't overclock it makes no sense paying extra for a K model.
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Re: ? for those who use high graphics settings
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2014, 04:46:09 AM »
Got a free upgrade to the K model.
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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2014, 05:36:00 AM »
Got a free upgrade to the K model.


Heh, that means that you're paying a lot of extra for what you're getting. Check individual component prices of your list and compare the total to the price you got offered.
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Re: ? for those who use high graphics settings
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2014, 09:53:09 AM »
the power supply will be a cheap one, i can almost guarantee that.  and I wouldnt play the game on a wireless connection.

and sorry to dissapoint you but you will be oc.  ram wont run at 1866 on that motherboard without having to oc.  if you dont oc it will run at 1333.

but dont worry it's really easy to oc.


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Re: ? for those who use high graphics settings
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2014, 10:01:54 AM »
the power supply will be a cheap one, i can almost guarantee that.  and I wouldnt play the game on a wireless connection.

and sorry to dissapoint you but you will be oc.  ram wont run at 1866 on that motherboard without having to oc.  if you dont oc it will run at 1333.

but dont worry it's really easy to oc.


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The motherboard will (in most cases) detect the rated speed of the ram and adjust it accordingly. He doesn't usually have to raise a finger as long as the ram is tested and supported by the manufacturer of the motherboard. Even if the ram will run slower, that makes little difference. The only stupid part is that he has extra cost components for overclocking without actually needing them.
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« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2014, 10:10:55 AM »
The motherboard will (in most cases) detect the rated speed of the ram and adjust it accordingly. He doesn't usually have to raise a finger as long as the ram is tested and supported by the manufacturer of the motherboard.

oh my bad when I read the motherboard specs and it says that to get 1866 you have to oc then I misunderstood.  I know you know more than the motherboard people who write the specs.

btw fun fact:  what does the "(oc)" on the motherboard specs right before the supported speeds mean?


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Re: ? for those who use high graphics settings
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2014, 10:39:41 AM »
With that system, even with the pooch adata RAM and such, will run AH at max settings, with the reflections/environmental slider half way or so, and still show max FPS on whatever LCD you're using.  With a similar system I've run 3 24" 1080p screens that were 144hz and would see 144fps in most instances, except over tank town when it's busy at low alt, or if I cranked the slider higher than 60 percent.  That was with a 4770k cpu and a 780ti, somewhat less powerful than your system, but close enough for horse shoes/hand grenades.


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Re: ? for those who use high graphics settings
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2014, 11:07:39 AM »
oh my bad when I read the motherboard specs and it says that to get 1866 you have to oc then I misunderstood.  I know you know more than the motherboard people who write the specs.

btw fun fact:  what does the "(oc)" on the motherboard specs right before the supported speeds mean?


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He doesn't have to OC. The motherboard will adjust the ram speed automatically.
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Re: ? for those who use high graphics settings
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2014, 11:25:08 AM »
He doesn't have to OC. The motherboard will adjust the ram speed automatically.

from their website

"DDR3 3200(OC)/3100(OC)/3000(OC)/2933(OC)/2800(OC)/2666(OC)/2600(OC)/2500(OC)/2400(OC)/2200(OC)/2133(OC)/2000(OC)/1866(OC)/1800(OC)/1600/1333"

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Re: ? for those who use high graphics settings
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2014, 11:41:13 AM »
from their website

"DDR3 3200(OC)/3100(OC)/3000(OC)/2933(OC)/2800(OC)/2666(OC)/2600(OC)/2500(OC)/2400(OC)/2200(OC)/2133(OC)/2000(OC)/1866(OC)/1800(OC)/1600/1333"

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He still doesn't have to OC. His motherboard will probably just set it to 1600 if it can't set 'out of spec' settings automatically.

The default 'EZ' settings seem to detect the ram fine and setting your 'EZ' setting to 'performance' should optimize everything for regular users. Ram sticks have a thing called X.M.P profile which can be enabled for automatic memory settings.

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« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2014, 12:13:38 PM »
He still doesn't have to OC. His motherboard will probably just set it to 1600 if it can't set 'out of spec' settings automatically.

The default 'EZ' settings seem to detect the ram fine and setting your 'EZ' setting to 'performance' should optimize everything for regular users. Ram sticks have a thing called X.M.P profile which can be enabled for automatic memory settings.

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I have an asus mobo.  I had to oc the ram to make it run at 1866.  of course you can use utilities to set up some things but that is still "oc".  after all that is what the xmp profile does  :salute.





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Re: ? for those who use high graphics settings
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2014, 01:11:42 PM »
I have an asus mobo.  I had to oc the ram to make it run at 1866.  of course you can use utilities to set up some things but that is still "oc".  after all that is what the xmp profile does  :salute.

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Yep but he doesn't _have to_ OC. He can keep the fail safe defaults and that won't hurt his performance much at all. Ram speed differences are very marginal in benchmarks.
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