HOing, Runners, Pickers, and Ack Huggers

[tuton25]

I don't know why these things have become such a problem recently, but they are getting to be so bad I am thinking of hanging this game up (plus I know some people who have). There are several things that I think would help, but I'm up for any criticism you might have. First I think the base ack should be nerfed. For example today I was trying to get a YAK-9T and instead of fighting me all he did was dive back and forth in the ack. I knew I couldn't touch him because my A6M is nothing but a flying newspaper and can't take a hit. Runners could be halted by perking back the top end rides like the 51D or 190Ds. I never understood why the 51 doesn't have a perk cost. Its faster than a Tempest (10-14k), carries more ords, and is more maneuverable. Pickers and HOers are something more of a social change. While I will never accept a HO (It never turns out well), but so many will do it that I just have to give it up some nights. I don't mind fighting multiple people (I actually enjoy it), but some people try to little and will just take the easy kills. I don't mind being shot down, but it shouldn't take 6-8 people to kill me.....

[Arlo]

Fun is measured in challenge. Frustration is measured the same way. Ask any devotee of any competitive game/hobby in existence.

(P.S. I don't think this is as 'new' as it seems to you.)

Never-the-less, I hope you find a way to have fun and enjoy the game again.  

[68ZooM]

 if they run run'em down if your planes slower don't chase him or get a faster one, if they run to there ack go kill him in his ack who cares if you get killed gezzz its a game.. I guess unless you're worried about score and rank.

[tuton25]

if they run run'em down if your planes slower don't chase him or get a faster one, if they run to there ack go kill him in his ack who cares if you get killed gezzz its a game.. I guess unless you're worried about score and rank.

I don't really care about getting shot down, its just I fly the zero a lot and as soon as I go in the ACK I get lit on fire.....

[Zoney]

I don't mind being shot down, but it shouldn't take 6-8 people to kill me.....

It doesn't 

[scott66]

IMHO it's not the game it's the players and the way they play which is their right it's their dime..even if they perked every fast ride it wouldn't change anything.once you've adapted to compensate for the way they play you will find fun again.don't give up...I've been thru this myself...explore every option..changing planes, countries, jumping into a tank, changing the way you fly...all helped me...good luck 

[Aspen]

You can't change the players, so if you want to play and have fun you must adapt.  I really think its about the same game I played years ago.  There was a bigger group of 1v1, non hoing, "let them fight it out" players, but there was plenty of Hoing, running, vulching, ganging, hoarding, whining back then as well.

[Slash27]

You can't change the players, so if you want to play and have fun you must adapt.  I really think its about the same game I played years ago.  There was a bigger group of 1v1, non hoing, "let them fight it out" players, but there was plenty of Hoing, running, vulching, ganging, hoarding, whining back then as well.

Agreed.

[Wiley]

My perception since 2007 is there's about the same amount of picking and hoing, but way more running and ack hugging than there used to be.  I have no stats, but that's what I seem to see on a typical night.

I think most posts on this, mine included, tend to be brought about by people not noticing it until they do, then that's what they focus on, and pretty soon it's all they see.  Counting the runners and ignoring the guys that stuck around unless it's a real knock down drag out fight that they really notice.

Wiley.

[xPoisonx]

Expect every encounter to end the same way (HO, run, come back at a higher altitude then make a diving pass to ack) and be happy for every enemy who doesn't do all those things at once 

[jeep00]

FWIW-it may not take 6-8 to shoot you, but at times thag's how many they are going to use. Very important information, just ask Ron White.
For the rest-it isn't new. It is ongoing and sometimes you get frustrated enough to think it's worse. But it never really is. Maybe fluctuations up and down a bit but they all remain tactics in use in the MA on most any given night.

[Vraciu]

Mt main complaint with ack running is the fact that when I chase THEM into their ack I get shot down but when they chase ME into mine they never get touched.

[Arlo]

[guncrasher]

nothing more fun that to pick a guy hiding in the ack while he has 5 or 6 werbies around.  you just have to plan your approach .


semp

[Dragon Tamer]

I would like to complain about picking but since it's a tactic that I'm more than guilty of (I frequently indulge in it whenever possible) I'm just going to keep my mouth shut.

As for ack hugging, this annoys me to no end. I didn't spend 20 minutes flying to your base to watch your spit 16 circle in the ack waiting for a proxy when I try to get you. Grow a pair and face your death like a man or come out of a different base.

I've found that those who run usually don't have any sort of ACM skills, beat their shot and you are golden. They will zoom away and try again, just lather, rinse, repeat until they go away, you finally catch them making a mistake or a friendly shows up and chases them off.