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Offline rpm

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Mitsubishi Regional Jet
« on: October 16, 2014, 05:48:34 AM »
Remember when GM and Detroit scoffed at Japanese cars? (We saw how that played out.) Will Boeing and Seattle do the same thing? I give you the Mitsubishi Regional Jet.

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Re: Mitsubishi Regional Jet
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2014, 06:22:05 AM »
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Re: Mitsubishi Regional Jet
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2014, 07:28:34 AM »
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Re: Mitsubishi Regional Jet
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2014, 08:27:41 AM »
Quote from: GScholz on October 16, 2014, 06:22:05 AM
A bigger threat...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comac_C919
They'll need to do much, much better on quality than usually found in China or former East Bloc nations for it to be a threat.  I don't know if the Mitsubishi jet will have the quality or the price to compete, but the Japanese are one of the nations able to produce high quality, high tech products.
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Re: Mitsubishi Regional Jet
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2014, 08:46:38 AM »
Quote from: Karnak on October 16, 2014, 08:27:41 AM
They'll need to do much, much better on quality than usually found in China or former East Bloc nations for it to be a threat.  I don't know if the Mitsubishi jet will have the quality or the price to compete, but the Japanese are one of the nations able to produce high quality, high tech products.
:airplane: Unfortunately, what is going to determine its viability as a threat to other manufactures is the cost per seat mile operating costs....I wish they would put quality of the product first, but it hadn't been that way so far!
   
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Re: Mitsubishi Regional Jet
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2014, 09:32:09 AM »
The Mitsubishi is a 76 seat regional jet. It is not much of a threat to Boeing or Airbus. However Comac is developing three jets, C219, C229 and C239 that will carry from 170-400 passengers. They will be competing directly with the biggest sellers from Boeing and Airbus. The Chinese airlines rival the American in fleet size and are currently operating Boeing and Airbus aircraft. When the state-owned Chinese airlines are ordered by the state to buy from Comac it will be as large a loss for Boeing and Airbus as if all American airlines suddenly dropped them as customers. Also, Irish airline Ryanair has already signed a deal with Comac, and the prototype has not even flown yet...

As for quality, the Chinese are license producing Airbus A320's. From what I've seen the Comac C200 series is basically a A320 copy.
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Re: Mitsubishi Regional Jet
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2014, 10:10:05 AM »
Quote from: GScholz on October 16, 2014, 09:32:09 AM
The Mitsubishi is a 76 seat regional jet. It is not much of a threat to Boeing or Airbus. However Comac is developing three jets, C219, C229 and C239 that will carry from 170-400 passengers. They will be competing directly with the biggest sellers from Boeing and Airbus. The Chinese airlines rival the American in fleet size and are currently operating Boeing and Airbus aircraft. When the state-owned Chinese airlines are ordered by the state to buy from Comac it will be as large a loss for Boeing and Airbus as if all American airlines suddenly dropped them as customers. Also, Irish airline Ryanair has already signed a deal with Comac, and the prototype has not even flown yet...

As for quality, the Chinese are license producing Airbus A320's. From what I've seen the Comac C200 series is basically a A320 copy.


Quality will be the determining factor with the Chinese jet.  It is a know fact that quota fills are more important than quality  in a communist country. 
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Re: Mitsubishi Regional Jet
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2014, 10:14:21 AM »
They're not communist anymore. They're fascist. And regardless of quality the Chinese airlines will be ordered by their government and owners to drop Boeing and Airbus in favor of Comac.
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Re: Mitsubishi Regional Jet
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2014, 01:20:50 PM »
Quote from: rpm on October 16, 2014, 05:48:34 AM
Remember when GM and Detroit scoffed at Japanese cars? (We saw how that played out.) Will Boeing and Seattle do the same thing? I give you the Mitsubishi Regional Jet.
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Embraer will bury them with the enhanced 190/195 series.

If Bombardier gets their C-Series to work the market will be saturated I would think...
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Re: Mitsubishi Regional Jet
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2014, 01:33:25 PM »
A couple of years ago Chinese cars failed all crash safety tests. This year their new model passed with 5 stars. Don't underestimate them.
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Re: Mitsubishi Regional Jet
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2014, 01:46:10 PM »
Quote from: wpeters on October 16, 2014, 10:10:05 AM

Quality will be the determining factor with the Chinese jet.  It is a know fact that quota fills are more important than quality  in a communist country. 

You actually think the Chinese will be meeting Quota fills on a Jet plane?.

Do you actually believe US investment companies will not be investing your pension funds contributions into the Chinese industry?.

Why do you think the Japanese are in fear of the Chinese, they will become the new Japan in the far east

This is why the Western world is on the decline, these outdated world views and inability to change :)
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Re: Mitsubishi Regional Jet
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Re: Mitsubishi Regional Jet
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2014, 02:21:22 PM »
5 years ago Chinese motorcycles and scooters were complete piles of crap.  Today Chinese motorcycles and scooters are complete piles of crap.
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Re: Mitsubishi Regional Jet
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2014, 07:09:48 PM »
Quote from: Zoney on October 16, 2014, 02:21:22 PM
5 years ago any Chinese product were complete piles of crap.  Today any Chinese product are complete piles of crap.

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Re: Mitsubishi Regional Jet
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2014, 08:12:11 PM »
Incredible how shortsighted some people are. The Chinese are not; they think long term. Always have.

Quote from: rpm on October 16, 2014, 05:48:34 AM
Remember when GM and Detroit scoffed at Japanese cars?

Indeed.
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