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Re: He-162
« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2014, 06:01:12 PM »
When I was researching for Wings of Power II, I ended up at wikipedia. They even had links to two USAF addresses. Check out our Wikipedia page, it is very well written but, I've never run into links to it from casual sources like WoPII.

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I am beginning to see far fewer WT and WoT adds and popups then a few months back. The ones now are kind of "mehh" in terms of getting you to click on them.

If we have become a bread and circuses culture. Add to that short attention spans. When AH3 goes live, it could well be into an arena where the spectators have forgotten about last weeks hero's WT and WoT.

We are customers, not inside confidants to HiTech's business strategies. Either he knows what he is doing. Or, we find a new game. Do any of you tell your competitors what your next move is just to make less than 5% of your customers happy in the short term?

And the 162, besides killing a few german pilots, did any of them even get shot at or seen by our fighters or bombers? At least the Meteor shot at a few things.

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Re: He-162
« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2014, 08:39:06 PM »
The He-162 killed a tempest or to and a few spit 16 and later modles iirc

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Re: He-162
« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2014, 11:31:55 PM »
There weren't even 200 buld. Current knowledge is that about 170 He-162 had been build in total, with only a small number of them actually becoming operational


The meteor was operational from July 44 on as a V-1 interceptor and in a ground attack role from Jan 45 on.

Far more then 200 were built, In fact over 350 "frames" were built; but they lacked engines. Most were operational, the real problem was lack of Jet fuel - in fact an entire squadron was operational, with only 2-3 flying operationally due to fuel shortage.
Same argument goes for the Japanese, the difference is Japan ran out of pilots before it ran out of aircrafts/airframes. In fact thousands of airframes were scrapped when the war ended, most without engines or weapons - on a funny note Japans equal to the "Panther tank" survived the war only because
it lacked any weapons - as for the allies rule on any vehicles with armaments, this particular vehicle was to combat the American "Sherman M4A2" - unfortunately its prototype was never finished when the war ended.

Meteor was used in combat and in squadron strength - Difference is the f7f tigercat, F8F Bearcat were in squadron strength but were not used in combat. Do-335's prototype seen "combat" but was not in operational strength or production and simply a prototype.

As for the He-162, it would be added in game - its the German equal to the La-7 - however a Meteor is still better then both the Me-262 and He-162, not sure why it continues to be ignored.
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Re: He-162
« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2014, 04:17:14 PM »
Do-335's prototype seen "combat" but was not in operational strength or production and simply a prototype.

The Do 335 never saw combat, it may have flown in combat zones (basically the entire sky over Germany was a combat zone) but it never saw or engaged in any combat.

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Re: He-162
« Reply #34 on: November 14, 2014, 11:13:08 PM »
The Do 335 never saw combat, it may have flown in combat zones (basically the entire sky over Germany was a combat zone) but it never saw or engaged in any combat.

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I think that is why he used quotations when he said "combat"  The closest thing I have ever found was anecdotal comments that one may have possibly maybe seen the enemy and ran away.

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Re: He-162
« Reply #35 on: November 14, 2014, 11:29:07 PM »
I think that we shouldn't look at production numbers or operational service but what something will bring to Aces High....
Like the Mosquito Mk. XVIII was only built to 35 examples but that squadron sank many U-boats and it would be a great ground attack aircraft in Aces High...
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Re: He-162
« Reply #36 on: November 15, 2014, 07:55:01 AM »
I think that we shouldn't look at production numbers or operational service but what something will bring to Aces High....

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Re: He-162
« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2014, 09:25:45 AM »
I think that we shouldn't look at production numbers or operational service but what something will bring to Aces High....
Like the Mosquito Mk. XVIII was only built to 35 examples but that squadron sank many U-boats and it would be a great ground attack aircraft in Aces High...
So can we have the Ho-229, F8F, F9F, and 162 then?

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Re: He-162
« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2014, 09:38:01 AM »
I don't know why you guys think late war super planes that little impact on the war is what's gonna bring in new players.
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Re: He-162
« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2014, 12:25:18 PM »
So can we have the Ho-229, F8F, F9F, and 162 then?
A fantasy plane, planes that never fired a shot in WWII and one with extremely low numbers and next to zero action that will be highly perked. The latter actually has the best justification, though it would be a total waste of resources to add it to the game. I also doubt enough documentations exsits as to its performance for HTC to model it to their standards. The Mosquito XVIII has better justification than all of the above combined and will contribute more to the game. And yet, as much as I would love me a 57mm Mollins totting mossie, I would not rate it as a high priority to the game.

Beaufighter, JU88 varients, He217, SB2C, KI44... and if you want low production numbers, then the "latest" Italian fighters - all would be far better additions.
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Re: He-162
« Reply #40 on: November 17, 2014, 11:18:03 PM »
The Do 335 never saw combat, it may have flown in combat zones (basically the entire sky over Germany was a combat zone) but it never saw or engaged in any combat.

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pierre clostermann's flight of four Tempest's flying at Tree Top level found and tried to attack a lone Do-335 which reversed course at max speed and escaped; they were unable to catch it or get into a firing position.
Might not be the big "Berlin Raid" in terms of combat, but yeah you can bet that Do-335 pilot was cleaning the cockpit after, it still counts as combat even if it was a prototype (whether armed or not).
I did point out the Do-335 was never in production, and yes from records only one Do-335 was seen flying by an "Ace" - so it does have some credible source; I was just pointing out it wasn't in production so there is no chance for it - let alone squadron strength - and again one prototype.

Whether Pierre is lying I have no idea; there has been some doubts about the claim, although its quite possible since the Do-335 was considerably faster then a Tempest especially with wep on - also given I doubt that Do-335 was fully loaded which would of made it even more faster vs a Tempest thats armed/fueled.
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Re: He-162
« Reply #41 on: November 18, 2014, 05:47:06 AM »
Didn't the 335 have 3 MkIII 103s ?

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Re: He-162
« Reply #42 on: November 18, 2014, 12:54:45 PM »
Didn't the 335 have 3 MkIII 103s ?
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Re: He-162
« Reply #43 on: November 18, 2014, 01:04:06 PM »
Didn't the 335 have 3 MkIII 103s ?

Was proposed for a projected destroyer variant (B-2), none built.
The few completed A-0 and A-1 had 1 Mk 103 and 2 MG 151/20
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Re: He-162
« Reply #44 on: November 18, 2014, 01:42:02 PM »
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