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Offline Someguy63

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Re: Ta152
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2014, 10:10:19 AM »
I also checked the wiki and found the files are not found.


Who's the one who posted those so they can be renewed? :noid
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Re: Ta152
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2014, 10:16:49 AM »

Do you understand then, that the slower and wider the barrel the roll, the better it is for a 152 (most the time)?  It can be elaborated.  The 152 in general doesnt like the super fast rolls you can accomplish in the other 190s, do it fast enough with enough speed and you'll be swapping its nose for its tail.

I advise trying to never get below 300mph and to learn how to roll the aircraft to present the smallest target profile to your enemy.  Surviving the first handful of passes is all you need usually before you and your bandit start equalizing, patience.



The 152 is just very unstable around its yaw-axis ("tailheavy").  You have to stay fast enough in the vertical (don't get too slow) that you loose too much rudder authority in such vertical maneuvers.


Are you thinking of a different plane? Because what you say is not true at all. In my experience the slower rolls throw the tail out in front more. The 152 excels in the vertical at slow speed. That is what picks out an experienced pilot from one who just decided to take it up for a spin. The rudder authority is very well at stall speeds and should be used to turn around at the top of a rope. For a con on your six your want to get fast so his speed equalizes with yours and then the greater E retention of the 152 kicks in, you can catch him most of the time if he tries to zoom back up.

Anarchy I know you've already seen this video but if you watch the ropes it can help answer some of your questions https://youtube.com/watch?v=OUZQCz5Zp3c
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Re: Ta152
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2014, 10:17:25 AM »
I also checked the wiki and found the files are not found.


Who's the one who posted those so they can be renewed? :noid

Moot posted those and he is nowhere to be found.
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« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2014, 12:04:05 PM »
I'll do a video on the tail slip as well.....it a simple flick that sets it off.
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Re: Ta152
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2014, 10:12:19 PM »
Are you thinking of a different plane? Because what you say is not true at all. In my experience the slower rolls throw the tail out in front more. The 152 excels in the vertical at slow speed. That is what picks out an experienced pilot from one who just decided to take it up for a spin. The rudder authority is very well at stall speeds and should be used to turn around at the top of a rope. For a con on your six your want to get fast so his speed equalizes with yours and then the greater E retention of the 152 kicks in, you can catch him most of the time if he tries to zoom back up.

Anarchy I know you've already seen this video but if you watch the ropes it can help answer some of your questions https://youtube.com/watch?v=OUZQCz5Zp3c

How and WHY do you shoot out of your cockpit like that.. That's incredible. My forward hat switch is used for those kind of shots. I move my head position all the way up. I did it last week. HUGE help to me.

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Re: Ta152
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2014, 10:26:48 PM »
He does it as to avoid the cockpit frame from obstructing his view of the con as it's lined up for a shot. Whereas if he were to stay in default view the shot would definitely be more difficult, though not impossible.
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Re: Ta152
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2014, 10:19:10 AM »
Its a good way to get hard angle shots but it also makes it difficult to predict where they will be in your guns since you don't have a gunsight.
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« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2014, 04:53:55 AM »
Its a good way to get hard angle shots but it also makes it difficult to predict where they will be in your guns since you don't have a gunsight.

Unless you put a dot on your screen where the center bore of your gunsight is... When you page up your forward head view the dot you placed on your screen makes up for the lack of gunsight...
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« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2014, 04:58:34 AM »
Unless you put a dot on your screen where the center bore of your gunsight is... When you page up your forward head view the dot you placed on your screen makes up for the lack of gunsight...

OMG, I remember doing this back when I used to play Counter Strike. Back than I scratched the crosshair into my old Dell monitor  :cool:
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Re: Ta152
« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2014, 10:30:15 AM »
Unless you put a dot on your screen where the center bore of your gunsight is... When you page up your forward head view the dot you placed on your screen makes up for the lack of gunsight...

I guess you could do that, I just think of it as an inch up from the side of the engine on my monitor. Dot on the screen would be too easy  :furious
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« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2014, 01:22:58 PM »
OMG, I remember doing this back when I used to play Counter Strike. Back than I scratched the crosshair into my old Dell monitor  :cool:
I did it in COD for quick scopes :o
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« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2014, 01:51:04 PM »
Looks like he is using TR in 6-axis mode. Maybe with the Z axis turned off.

The last two kills were aimed by pushing his head out against the "buldged" canopy and essentially aiming with the MG151\20's tracer stream. Just like many do with the wirble. Never thought about doing it that way since I only use 2-axis mode to inherit my saved head positions from the hps file. You can tell it's TR by the view over his shoulder which can only be accomplished by turning your head that direction while leaning back against the opposite buldged side of the canopy. The view point then looks like he is looking in from the opposite side of his canopy up and over his shoulder. Anyone with TR in 6-axis mode does this. 

If you use only the 20mm for snap shots and deflection shooting you will hit more often and not waste the 30mm which he seems to save for 6 shots. He also understood his lead allowance when he made the almost point blank shot on the bottom of his dive leading by only the very bottom of the Revi16D reticle that was showing at the very top of his reflector plate. That nice reticle looked familiar.....

Using only the 20mm your shooting deflection shots should be exactly like any 190. Offline turn on tracers, set the alpha slider all the way to the right to turn off the gunsight in your 190. You will see it's not that hard to shoot using the tracer stream which he had turned on.
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Re: Ta152
« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2014, 11:24:23 PM »
Much better to see the actual fight then a compilation of kills imo.
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Re: Ta152
« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2014, 11:33:06 PM »
Much better to see the actual fight then a compilation of kills imo.

There is some in there. Except the second video is all kills. Opinions, everyone's got em.
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