Ta152

[Someguy63]

I would love to know how to become better at ACM in this thing.

Just the norm, how to gain a shot on a bandit, barrel rolls, just everything in general.

I'm asking this 'cause when I'm flying this plane I often end up getting under high bandits and when they dive on me the only thing I know how to do is:

- Reversals (which I often miss)
-Dive away (which also puts me at a disadvantage to the cons below me)


I also cannot rope people well and come around on them with excessive amounts of rudder w/o stalling out, it's difficult.

[FLS]

The long wings increase adverse yaw, be sure to use enough rudder for coordination when you roll in and out of turns. You might practice S turns and lazy 8's, alternate wingovers,  to get used to the rudder work.         

[JunkyII]

I would love to know how to become better at ACM in this thing.

Just the norm, how to gain a shot on a bandit, barrel rolls, just everything in general.

I'm asking this 'cause when I'm flying this plane I often end up getting under high bandits and when they dive on me the only thing I know how to do is:

- Reversals (which I often miss)
-Dive away (which also puts me at a disadvantage to the cons below me)


I also cannot rope people well and come around on them with excessive amounts of rudder w/o stalling out, it's difficult.

I have a few films of me flying against higher more maneuverable planes in the MA where I actually flipped the script on them and waxed that arse....I'll narrate over top of them and send them to you....shoot me a PM with an email....Youtube been stupid lately.

Have you figured out when the tail whips out yet?

[xPoisonx]

As for tail whips keep the ball in between the two lines on the indicator just below the gun site and if you start to lose control make sure you are FULL throttle. It happens easily if you chop power during the top of a loop.

[Someguy63]

Thanks so far guys.

To answer your question Junky, no. And PM about to be sent.


And for FLS, what are alternative wing overs?


And wait is this tail whip something bad or what Poison speaks of it as if it can be controlled, which I believe it can...but just want to be assured.

[xPoisonx]

Thanks so far guys.

To answer your question Junky, no. And PM about to be sent.


And for FLS, what are alternative wing overs?


And wait is this tail whip something bad or what Poison speaks of it as if it can be controlled, which I believe it can...but just want to be assured.

I meant to prevent it. Not usually a good thing unless you want to die looking cool.

[Someguy63]

I meant to prevent it. Not usually a good thing unless you want to die looking cool.

Ok

[FLS]

A wingover is a 180 turn where you climb for the first 90 degrees of turn then descend the second 90 degrees.  Alternate left and right wingovers to fly a lazy 8. Here's a link with a full explanation. http://avstop.com/AC/FlightTraingHandbook/lazy8.html  It's an exercise that, along with flat S turns, will help you coordinate the rudder with the turn and keep the ball centered in the gauge.

[JunkyII]

A wingover is a 180 turn where you climb for the first 90 degrees of turn then descend the second 90 degrees.  Alternate left and right wingovers to fly a lazy 8. Here's a link with a full explanation. http://avstop.com/AC/FlightTraingHandbook/lazy8.html  It's an exercise that, along with flat S turns, will help you coordinate the rudder with the turn and keep the ball centered in the gauge.

Isn't a lazy 8 high yo yos right and left in a row? I thought a wing over was more like seen here at 2:09 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA_7QtXwcSo or would this be considered a hammerhead? I swear I get this stuff confused all the time.

Anarchy, that link is some of my 152 flying prior to a year long vacation from Aces High....

This is a copy of a video I posted with the music removed...sounds weird but flying doesn't change. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqO5WjKWW1A&list=UU493AyZRhJFcUVCCAWHZOWQ

Maybe they can show you some things, I'm working on a few films to send to you, probably will take me a few days.

[FLS]

You might use a wingover for a high yoyo. To me the difference is a yoyo is in reference to a maneuvering bandit, a wingover is a basic maneuver like a loop. The point is to practice adding rudder to your roll to make it a habit you don't have to think about.

[JunkyII]

You might use a wingover for a high yoyo. To me the difference is a yoyo is in reference to a maneuvering bandit, a wingover is a basic maneuver like a loop. The point is to practice adding rudder to your roll to make it a habit you don't have to think about.

Makes sense

[Triton28]

Flying the 109 a lot can get you in the habit of doing some funky stuff with the rudder.  Like was said, keeping the rudder quieter and staying coordinated helps stave off the nasty spins. 

[Babalonian]

I would love to know how to become better at ACM in this thing.

Just the norm, how to gain a shot on a bandit, barrel rolls, just everything in general.
Do you understand then, that the slower and wider the barrel the roll, the better it is for a 152 (most the time)?  It can be elaborated.  The 152 in general doesnt like the super fast rolls you can accomplish in the other 190s, do it fast enough with enough speed and you'll be swapping its nose for its tail.

I'm asking this 'cause when I'm flying this plane I often end up getting under high bandits and when they dive on me the only thing I know how to do is:

- Reversals (which I often miss)
-Dive away (which also puts me at a disadvantage to the cons below me)

I advise trying to never get below 300mph and to learn how to roll the aircraft to present the smallest target profile to your enemy.  Surviving the first handful of passes is all you need usually before you and your bandit start equalizing, patience.


I also cannot rope people well and come around on them with excessive amounts of rudder w/o stalling out, it's difficult.
The 152 is just very unstable around its yaw-axis ("tailheavy").  You have to stay fast enough in the vertical (don't get too slow) that you loose too much rudder authority in such vertical maneuvers.

[Randy1]

I always have the same tip for all 190 boys.  First, eliminate the rear view from your hat switch.  Second, it always best to never exceed 200 mph.  Third, never exceed 5, 000 feet.  Fourth and most important, always use auto pilot "Level."

 
That is all.

[Someguy63]

Ok I understand now Junky and FLS.

Babylonian, I understand that thing about the barrel rolls and how it's best to stay above 300mph, but the thing is with high cons on me, they eventually slow down to saddle. When they do this, I'm there trying to keep speed up and when they get on me I can't shake em so I could only dive.

It's mainly a result of me not knowing how to conserve my E in a co-alt and co-E fight, not knowing how to rope w/I giving them a shot, briefly, and my reversal shot set ups suck.