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Offline SysError

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Re: Vets Day outrage
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2014, 09:07:11 AM »
Some people are confusing Veteran's Day for Memorial Day. These people are throwing 21 gun salutes around like they are napkins at a barbecue.

This retroactive conservative faux outrage is faux. It cries "Look at me!!! I want my measure of downtrodden!!! I'm being oppressed!!! I'm being oppresssseddd!!!"


All this stuff reminds me of two songs by the same person.

To the Victims of This Tragedy We Send Our Thoughts and Prayers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8ouBFh04DU

Thanks For the Support
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlUyNmUABbc

BTW: I forgot.  A Vet pointed me to the song above.

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Re: Vets Day outrage
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2014, 10:04:46 AM »
I've known two.  One was a Marine aviation mechanic in the Pacific, saw no combat.  The other was a Marine in Nam, probably personified most of the bad things that came out of that war.

Other than those two, I haven't met a lot of pro-war vets, either.

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+1 on that OM. Most people I know that are pro-war vets are either nuts or have never been in hand-to-hand combat.  

My buddies Robin and Peter went to the Baltics as part of the 'peace enforcing units' in the 90's and both came back broken. Taking the life of another human changes you.  And their combat engagements were nothing compared to what NATO experienced and are experiencing in Afghanistan. And yet even Afghanistan pales in comparison to what our fathers and grandfathers faced in WWI, II, and in Korea.  Yet they managed to put on a smile on their face and live the rest of their lives without really talking much about it until their later years in life... some never did or never will.

Supporting veterans doesn't mean that you're pro-war or anti-war. It means you believe on giving these folks the help they need to repair the scars to their body and soul.  Some injuries a vet has are never seen or heard. That's the tough part of being a Vet.

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Re: Vets Day outrage
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2014, 10:43:02 AM »
+1 on that OM. Most people I know that are pro-war vets are either nuts or have never been in hand-to-hand combat.  

My buddies Robin and Peter went to the Baltics as part of the 'peace enforcing units' in the 90's and both came back broken. Taking the life of another human changes you.  And their combat engagements were nothing compared to what NATO experienced and are experiencing in Afghanistan. And yet even Afghanistan pales in comparison to what our fathers and grandfathers faced in WWI, II, and in Korea.  Yet they managed to put on a smile on their face and live the rest of their lives without really talking much about it until their later years in life... some never did or never will.

Supporting veterans doesn't mean that you're pro-war or anti-war. It means you believe on giving these folks the help they need to repair the scars to their body and soul.  Some injuries a vet has are never seen or heard. That's the tough part of being a Vet.

:salute

Good post.

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Re: Vets Day outrage
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2014, 10:49:49 AM »

2.  Bruce Springsteen did a veterans concert and the snarky bastard played an anti war song.

If you talk with veterans, most of them are absolutely anti-war. They usually never want to experience the horror again.
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Re: Vets Day outrage
« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2014, 02:12:27 PM »
I'm sorry but the way I recall Springsteen's "Unfortunate Son" was more
a jab at the sons of the "elite" and "privileged" that could buy or trade on their
parents celebrity to avoid the draft.
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Re: Vets Day outrage
« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2014, 02:16:53 PM »
I'm sorry but the way I recall Springsteen's "Unfortunate Son" was more
a jab at the sons of the "elite" and "privileged" that could buy or trade on their
parents celebrity to avoid the draft.


"Fortunate Son", originally by CCR. But yes, that's exactly what is was meant as. In no way is it anti-vet or anti-soldier, and it really doesn't have much to say about war as a whole, it's about those who escaped by means unavailable to the rest of the populace (Senator's Son, Millionaire's Son, Military Son [Daddy could keep him away from a combat unit with connections]).

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Re: Vets Day outrage
« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2014, 02:39:12 PM »
+1 on that OM. Most people I know that are pro-war vets are either nuts or have never been in hand-to-hand combat.  

My buddies Robin and Peter went to the Baltics as part of the 'peace enforcing units' in the 90's and both came back broken. Taking the life of another human changes you.  And their combat engagements were nothing compared to what NATO experienced and are experiencing in Afghanistan. And yet even Afghanistan pales in comparison to what our fathers and grandfathers faced in WWI, II, and in Korea.  Yet they managed to put on a smile on their face and live the rest of their lives without really talking much about it until their later years in life... some never did or never will.

Supporting veterans doesn't mean that you're pro-war or anti-war. It means you believe on giving these folks the help they need to repair the scars to their body and soul.  Some injuries a vet has are never seen or heard. That's the tough part of being a Vet.

:salute
Well said.
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