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Offline Slade

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Re: BF110, any tricks to use as a fighter?
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2014, 01:45:03 PM »
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The reason is that two planes fighting are rarely at the same speed, same alt and in sustained turns. This is simply not how most fights play out, especially between two different planes. This leaves quite some room for pilot skill to come into play.

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Re: BF110, any tricks to use as a fighter?
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2014, 01:52:05 PM »
This is what has always made me shake my head in sadness at the people who whine about things like the Spit XVI or La-7 and then proudly claim to have never flown one, not even offline.  Pride causing them to cut their own noses off.

Completely agree.  That's one of the main reasons I fly different planes (boredom also comes to mind...but I digress). 

I'll even fly the SpitXVI every now and then! 

I always feel dirty afterwards.  ;)


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Re: BF110, any tricks to use as a fighter?
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2014, 06:16:27 AM »
fulcrum telling it as an expert... lol


so.
I would use the great instanteous turn rate and the guns to get a quick kill from a snapshot, avoiding the longer turnfights with the nimble crew.
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Re: BF110, any tricks to use as a fighter?
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2014, 06:58:09 AM »
Use the verticals, I'd say the power/weight ratio is close to a 109G2. Max speed is not so good, you can use speed to reduce the number of people in the fight but don't expect to outrun most mid war planes. Good wing area so the flat turns are good, but don't get too cocky at low speeds or you might experience a hardly recoverable flat spin.

Never take the additional 20mm's, the pay to price on weight and aerodynamics is too big. Firing the 20mm's only at longer ranges is a good way to make faster planes to turn, as they don't know if you are firing the 30mm's or not and will not risk to keep giving their 6.

Don't take more than 50% internal fuel unless you are going very high (not a good option IMO as the 110G2 performs not very well up there). Above that 50% the flatspin problem will get much worst.
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Re: BF110, any tricks to use as a fighter?
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2014, 02:04:08 PM »
fulcrum telling it as an expert... lol


so.
I would use the great instanteous turn rate and the guns to get a quick kill from a snapshot, avoiding the longer turnfights with the nimble crew.

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Re: BF110, any tricks to use as a fighter?
« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2014, 11:27:53 AM »
Thanks everyone for the replied, these days I seem to be getting a little better in it. I managed to take down three fighters that upped while I was deacking a town (luck). Also yesterday I got into a turning standoff with an F4U, both of us on the deck with no E. That was the funniest thing ever, I think we made 50+ circles before he finally gave up and left (I couldnt catch him). I also ordered a duel throttle joystick off Taobao (China's Ebay), I like Fulcum's advice about playing with the throttles, actually I like all his advice.
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Re: BF110, any tricks to use as a fighter?
« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2014, 07:32:34 PM »
Thanks everyone for the replied, these days I seem to be getting a little better in it. I managed to take down three fighters that upped while I was deacking a town (luck). Also yesterday I got into a turning standoff with an F4U, both of us on the deck with no E. That was the funniest thing ever, I think we made 50+ circles before he finally gave up and left (I couldnt catch him). I also ordered a duel throttle joystick off Taobao (China's Ebay), I like Fulcum's advice about playing with the throttles, actually I like all his advice.

I have yet to see an advantage in combat with having dual throttles...setting the rpms on the 2nd throttle is nice tho for cruising fuel economy.

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Re: BF110, any tricks to use as a fighter?
« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2014, 08:20:38 AM »
I have yet to see an advantage in combat with having dual throttles...setting the rpms on the 2nd throttle is nice tho for cruising fuel economy.

I've found it very useful in certain maneuvers, but mostly in emergencies. When parts like vertical stabilizers, ailerons or rudders come off, dual throttles gives you faster response times on the engines, to keep you in control.

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Re: BF110, any tricks to use as a fighter?
« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2014, 11:35:22 AM »
I have yet to see an advantage in combat with having dual throttles...setting the rpms on the 2nd throttle is nice tho for cruising fuel economy.

The other day I lost an engine and noticed the plane turned a lot tighter, in one direction......
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Re: BF110, any tricks to use as a fighter?
« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2014, 01:05:55 PM »
I've found it very useful in certain maneuvers, but mostly in emergencies. When parts like vertical stabilizers, ailerons or rudders come off, dual throttles gives you faster response times on the engines, to keep you in control.

This.  It's not that big of a deal till you're missing pieces... then you really notice how much chopping throttle to one side or the other helps.   
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Re: BF110, any tricks to use as a fighter?
« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2014, 09:38:55 PM »
This.  It's not that big of a deal till you're missing pieces... then you really notice how much chopping throttle to one side or the other helps.   

Too bad you can't feather them independently.  I'd think that would be a lot more efficient.  Probably make a good wish in the wishlist forum.
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Re: BF110, any tricks to use as a fighter?
« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2014, 09:42:51 PM »
Hmm...  I always assumed you could.   I just had never gotten around to trying to map it.
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Re: BF110, any tricks to use as a fighter?
« Reply #27 on: November 25, 2014, 02:23:18 AM »
Too bad you can't feather them independently.  I'd think that would be a lot more efficient.  Probably make a good wish in the wishlist forum.
When you shut down the engine in a multi engine plane in AH it auto feather itself.
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Re: BF110, any tricks to use as a fighter?
« Reply #28 on: November 25, 2014, 02:48:45 AM »
I see the point here.

For general information you can select any particular engine with shift + engine number, and select its individual power with the main throttle. Don't forget to select back all the engine with shift + e, or you may have issues at landing  :lol

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Re: BF110, any tricks to use as a fighter?
« Reply #29 on: November 25, 2014, 11:30:27 AM »
Too bad you can't feather them independently.  I'd think that would be a lot more efficient.  Probably make a good wish in the wishlist forum.

You can. Each engine can be assigned separate RPM/Prop pitch controls. I sometimes pull back RPM on one engine to save fuel while cruising in situations where I don't want to lose too much speed. It's not a huge difference from just pulling both throttles back so I don't do it often to be honest.
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