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Offline j500ss

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Re: It is time to update my OLD rig
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2014, 09:04:56 PM »
Well here is one build I kind of threw together:   http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rMZFxr

Still over the $1000 mark I had set for myself, going to go back and search around more.

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Re: It is time to update my OLD rig
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2014, 09:10:37 PM »
IMO.   You already slightly exceeded your budget.   Forgo the 770 for an EVGA 970 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487070.   You'll thank yourself in the long run.   Much more card, for not much more money.

Good build otherwise.
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Re: It is time to update my OLD rig
« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2014, 10:03:32 AM »
This is from what I see basically the same rig.   http://secure.ncixus.com/ncixpc/ncixpc.cfm?uuid=7FC0B554-E5E0-4B9A-9D10388EE09BF6D7-6170989#PCTop

OS installed and ready to go.

1 year warranty

970 graphics card

Only thing I am unsure of is if I really would need the Hydro cool option

Not sure I would ever need to OC anything.

From what I see it pretty much has anytning I could need for AH, and a PC

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Re: It is time to update my OLD rig
« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2014, 11:14:38 AM »
This is from what I see basically the same rig.   http://secure.ncixus.com/ncixpc/ncixpc.cfm?uuid=7FC0B554-E5E0-4B9A-9D10388EE09BF6D7-6170989#PCTop

OS installed and ready to go.

1 year warranty

970 graphics card

Only thing I am unsure of is if I really would need the Hydro cool option

Not sure I would ever need to OC anything.

From what I see it pretty much has anytning I could need for AH, and a PC

If you want to pay 200 bucks extra for a ready computer that one is probably a good option.
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Re: It is time to update my OLD rig
« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2014, 11:48:14 AM »
If you want to pay 200 bucks extra for a ready computer that one is probably a good option.

Well as I see it, I am actually only paying about $75 for pretty much the same unit as my pcpartspicker choices.

Maybe I am missing something?

I can't imagine anyone is going to build a rig for less than a couple hundred, plus you have various shipping costs for components coming from various suppliers.

Just looking at it from all angles sir, but I do appreciate the feed back for sure

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Re: It is time to update my OLD rig
« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2014, 11:55:04 AM »
Well as I see it, I am actually only paying about $75 for pretty much the same unit as my pcpartspicker choices.

Maybe I am missing something?

I can't imagine anyone is going to build a rig for less than a couple hundred, plus you have various shipping costs for components coming from various suppliers.

Just looking at it from all angles sir, but I do appreciate the feed back for sure

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Re: It is time to update my OLD rig
« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2014, 12:35:56 PM »
You're right the difference is small. If you're happy with the components go for it. You get warranty as a bonus.

Actually in going over it again, I was wrong.   Sorry about that

With the NCXIS,   I had no additional drive other than the ssd, and the MOBO in that unit I question a little bit.

Going to take my current pc parts picker list down town this week hopefully and see what they say. 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qCtKGX

CPU is a bit slower than my original, but I think it should run anything coming from HTC just fine.

I have no need for any real upgraded cooling for this one, and the Corsair case should be plenty of cooling on its own.

I also added the GTX 970, lots of choices in that card, really kind of confusing actually, but I think the one I picked should do ok.

Estimated wattage usage drops quite a bit as well over the original setup, so with that I feel really good about the PSU choice.

As far as assembling it all, that I have no real issue with, it's all the loading, formatting, fine tuning, and making it go is where I am pretty much clueless, but I will figure it out, or have someone do it for me   :lol

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Re: It is time to update my OLD rig
« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2014, 01:05:44 PM »
You might want to get a slightly better processor for the same price. You had chosen an i5-4570@3.2 GHz, while 4590 is only +$3, 4670 +$17 and 4690K@3.5 GHz +$27. Although you may not be able to tell any difference in normal use, why not get the best item allowed by your budget. The extra 0.1 GHz might be the critical step between average and good.
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Re: It is time to update my OLD rig
« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2014, 01:26:31 PM »
You might want to get a slightly better processor for the same price. You had chosen an i5-4570@3.2 GHz, while 4590 is only +$3, 4670 +$17 and 4690K@3.5 GHz +$27. Although you may not be able to tell any difference in normal use, why not get the best item allowed by your budget. The extra 0.1 GHz might be the critical step between average and good.

Not only the extra 0.1Ghz but newer architectures are often faster even when using same clock speed.
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Re: It is time to update my OLD rig
« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2014, 01:58:12 PM »
Agree with both Biz and Rip on the CPU.

Also, bear in mind that the ACX coolers are loud and can disrupt the airflow within the case.   I now prefer the Reference Cooler, which is what I linked.   The one I linked is a faster clock, which may not seem like much, but it is.
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Re: It is time to update my OLD rig
« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2014, 07:53:59 PM »
Well I am going to start the ordering process and assemble myself.  I suspect it will take a bit of time as I have had enough other issues come up that I just am not sure I want to drop all the needed $$$ all at once.

I talked with the local shop near me and they told me they could really not get components and build a rig any cheaper than I could.  They will install the OS  I provide and get everything in order and test for $75, which I thought was ok.

They did point out that I probably should consider more memory, going form 8 to 16, not sure it is necessary, but I am considering it.

This is what I am going with:  http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CHt9FT

I'm sure there will be extras...  Case fans and what not but when finally done.   I should have enough computer to last me quite a while.


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Re: It is time to update my OLD rig
« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2014, 11:19:50 PM »
Well I am going to start the ordering process and assemble myself.  I suspect it will take a bit of time as I have had enough other issues come up that I just am not sure I want to drop all the needed $$$ all at once.

I talked with the local shop near me and they told me they could really not get components and build a rig any cheaper than I could.  They will install the OS  I provide and get everything in order and test for $75, which I thought was ok.

They did point out that I probably should consider more memory, going form 8 to 16, not sure it is necessary, but I am considering it.

This is what I am going with:  http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CHt9FT

I'm sure there will be extras...  Case fans and what not but when finally done.   I should have enough computer to last me quite a while.



75 bucks for assembly and OS install is well worth it if you haven't done the job before. Of course if you choose to learn it now, you'll continue saving that 75 bucks in the future.
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Re: It is time to update my OLD rig
« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2014, 12:28:46 AM »
Well I am going to start the ordering process and assemble myself.  I suspect it will take a bit of time as I have had enough other issues come up that I just am not sure I want to drop all the needed $$$ all at once.

The build will take 2-3 hours depending on how careful you are.  Add an hour or two for cable management if you want the interior completely clean of cables (a good portion of that will be spent modifying the case).  Another 3-5 hours to install the OS, drivers, applications, move data and tweak settings and you're up and running.

One full day or a leisurely weekend ought to do it.

Even if you let the shop do part of this you're still going to be stuck with 80-90% of it so why not just do it yourself.  Then you know it's done right.  OS install is an hour at most and simply requires following the prompts.  That's an easy $75 savings.
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Re: It is time to update my OLD rig
« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2015, 11:01:34 AM »
So it's done!!  I am still learning how to deal with dual drives, which if you have never done and your SSD is limited in size can be a pain.  In the end I went with the i5-4690K, arctic freeze pro7 cooler, gigabyte z97-d3h, EVGA 970 card, 8mb of ram, 120gig SSD, 1tb HDD, 600w PSU.

The actual build is SOMEWHAT easy, however if you have NEVER done one, it in ways it kind of blows.  There really are no set instructions, and there will be moments you find your self saying " what do I do with this plug"?  or "what fool uses all black wires in a case and does not mark polarity"

I used a Corsair 230 case, it's an ok case from a buildability standpoint, and from an airflow standpoint it seems to be to be great!  VERY quiet!!  I have a total of 5 fans overall ( not including the GPU fan)  and you really cannot hear it run.

I have been in game, but not actually played yet.  I just got all my settings and mappings done Sunday for flight, still have to do mapping for GV's yet.

I cranked everything upa nd turned about everything on with the exception of the environment slider, I turned that up just a bit off minimum setting.  It's a totally different looking game!!

The $75 to have someone else deal with the OS install, and all the drivers was well spent to me, I just wish I had known to be more specific on what exactly to install on the HDD vs SSD.  It's a live and learn thing, very satisfied with the rig thus far.  Hope to actually get some stick time this week in on of the arenas

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Re: It is time to update my OLD rig
« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2015, 11:35:54 AM »
So it's done!!  I am still learning how to deal with dual drives, which if you have never done and your SSD is limited in size can be a pain.  In the end I went with the i5-4690K, arctic freeze pro7 cooler, gigabyte z97-d3h, EVGA 970 card, 8mb of ram, 120gig SSD, 1tb HDD, 600w PSU.

The actual build is SOMEWHAT easy, however if you have NEVER done one, it in ways it kind of blows.  There really are no set instructions, and there will be moments you find your self saying " what do I do with this plug"?  or "what fool uses all black wires in a case and does not mark polarity"

I used a Corsair 230 case, it's an ok case from a buildability standpoint, and from an airflow standpoint it seems to be to be great!  VERY quiet!!  I have a total of 5 fans overall ( not including the GPU fan)  and you really cannot hear it run.

I have been in game, but not actually played yet.  I just got all my settings and mappings done Sunday for flight, still have to do mapping for GV's yet.

I cranked everything upa nd turned about everything on with the exception of the environment slider, I turned that up just a bit off minimum setting.  It's a totally different looking game!!

The $75 to have someone else deal with the OS install, and all the drivers was well spent to me, I just wish I had known to be more specific on what exactly to install on the HDD vs SSD.  It's a live and learn thing, very satisfied with the rig thus far.  Hope to actually get some stick time this week in on of the arenas

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You'll regret getting only a 120Gb SSD. It will fill up fast and you'll hate running stuff off the hdd after you get used to the SSD speed :)
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