F2P first person shooter

[Bruv119]

Ok so heres an idea in the new version HTC models a basic first person shooter.  

These human shields get to play for free and terrorise the GV guys with bazookas and panzerfausts.  Maybe a sapper or engineer model.  Jump on and off jeeps / m3s and motorcycles.   Able to fix GV's in the field after a period of time or small corrections to aircraft and gain some sort of perk points that may be in turn used on some other play toys in the hangar.  

Spawn from barracks at fields  (if they down can't up from that field)  troops strat damage relates to how many units allowed.

Soon as they want to try some of the games other areas such as armour or god forbide an aircraft they have to  cough up  $$$'s or use their XP points.

Would be cool to join a C47 in flight and bail out with other squaddies to assist in capturing/ defending a town.  

WHat with the storch pilots bailing out and defending vbases and ports with pistols the game kind of has this already just needs to be expanded upon and made a more legitimate form of gameplay. 

[bustr]

You know all wishes are slid in here on the special road lined with good intentions.

I will wait with abated breath for your "General" forum observation. It will be, HiTech needs to do something forceful about all the free to play hooligans killing you in your cockpit as you spawn to fly into combat. We can barely stop a pilot from doing that now if auto ack is down. You want to create a hoard of children doing it for free.

Hey Joey I'm bored today, what can we do? I know, Aces High 3 just started up, and they have a free FPS troop we can play. Mikey says he and some friends played that, and found out most of the pay players are old guys and screwing with them is real fun. They scream on channel when you frag them.......

Reeeaaallllyyyyy????? Lets do it. I love making that old guy next door stand in the street screaming at my parents.

[tuton25]

I will wait with abated breath for your "General" forum observation. It will be, HiTech needs to do something forceful about all the free to play hooligans killing you in your cockpit as you spawn to fly into combat. We can barely stop a pilot from doing that now if auto ack is down. You want to create a hoard of children doing it for free.

What are you doing upping from a field with the ack down???

I like the idea because I think Hitech needs to diversify the game to draw new players in.

[bustr]

You are overlooking something.

If AH was being started up on 1\1\15 with FPS troop only Free to Play advertised, Or, $14.95 to get the full monty, sure, hunky dory. Then the game would have a large in and out population of freeloaders doing everything they can to screw and grief the slow growth group of full paying customers. HiTech under those conditions would probably have to relent and give them a limited plane set to entice upgrading to full pay status.

Today we have customers who have been with this game for 15 years paying faithfully every month on time. And now some paying and no longer playing customers want what they pay for to be given away with a very good chance of creating a permanent population of freeloaders who will grief the paying customers at any chance to rub it in. Among those many are current paying customers who would drop their full pay subscriptions in a heart beat to become free loaders. That is what the old HtH free arenas created instead of a staging area to entice players to upgrade to full paying and get all of the benefits. No one ever saw that ugly side of the free HtH because the two arenas never crossed paths.

It's amazing how many players want to spend HiTech's money for him, to get a free ride off some other group of players backs. Deja Vu...hmmmm I've seen this phenomenon somewhere in the real world. Welfare state and Atlas Shrugged comes to mind.

[Oldman731]

That is what the old HtH free arenas created instead of a staging area to entice players to upgrade to full paying and get all of the benefits. No one ever saw that ugly side of the free HtH because the two arenas never crossed paths.

Could it be that I agree with Bustr?

- oldman (looks pensively at sky)

[Bruv119]

ok well since your adverse to the F2P option I sort of agree with the points you made about it anyway.  Apart from the game dwindling to nothing and having to close.  

all of the above added to our virtual hangar for susbscribers.    

[Chalenge]

I don't see why an FPS side of AH is considered to be only a feature for squeakers, trolls, and griefers. It seems obvious that if HiTech has been wanting to add it for a long time that he has a good idea of how to do it in a way that is acceptable.

It does seem like an expensive addition at this point, but if he gets some sort of donated effort maybe not so much.

[Bruv119]

I've always wanted the complete WW2 experience in one open ended battlefield.   I feel it is slightly HTC's duty to remember those brave soldiers as well not only as a history lesson to the young but the fact that war is hell especially if your a grunt.   

Seems silly not to have some troops running around towns and instead of a "tank" town which seems to be entirely un-realistic without planes dropping bombs on them and troops shooting bazookas at them!  

Played some COD with my 12 year old nephew tonight and he owned me     just seeing him scroll through all the menus and getting his kit just right before using it was impressive!   

[Chalenge]

Tanks in actual combat cannot survive long without infantry.

[Motherland]

You are overlooking something.

If AH was being started up on 1\1\15 with FPS troop only Free to Play advertised, Or, $14.95 to get the full monty, sure, hunky dory. Then the game would have a large in and out population of freeloaders doing everything they can to screw and grief the slow growth group of full paying customers. HiTech under those conditions would probably have to relent and give them a limited plane set to entice upgrading to full pay status.

Today we have customers who have been with this game for 15 years paying faithfully every month on time. And now some paying and no longer playing customers want what they pay for to be given away with a very good chance of creating a permanent population of freeloaders who will grief the paying customers at any chance to rub it in. Among those many are current paying customers who would drop their full pay subscriptions in a heart beat to become free loaders. That is what the old HtH free arenas created instead of a staging area to entice players to upgrade to full paying and get all of the benefits. No one ever saw that ugly side of the free HtH because the two arenas never crossed paths.

It's amazing how many players want to spend HiTech's money for him, to get a free ride off some other group of players backs. Deja Vu...hmmmm I've seen this phenomenon somewhere in the real world. Welfare state and Atlas Shrugged comes to mind.

The idea that people currently paying will stop paying because of the addition of a feature that doesn't currently exist is insane
The idea that the community should be restricted to the current 27 people who still play this game so that you don't have to deal with new players and the occasional griefer is insane (though if that's what the current community wants then, by all means, that's exactly what they deserve)
The idea that this game has a snowball's chance in hell of getting new life breathed into it without dramatic changes is insane
There was certainly a lot of overlap between H2H and paying subscribers especially because H2H players could use the forum. I certainly remember flying H2H with frequency. Occasionally it was unpleasant but hey
People played back then
 (when was H2H shut down, 2008? that actually correlates pretty close to the number peak yeah? obviously that didn't primarily contribute to anything but it's a funny coincidence)

The unnecessary wordiness of your post combined with the weird, almost fatalistic blind elitism leveled against the people who are needed for a healthy community makes the Ayn Rand allusion at the end strangely beautiful. I'm waiting eagerly for the obligatory follow up post about how recreational sex is for pond scum because worthwhile people have better things to do.

(all that said I think that the idea that HTC can just 'whip up' a FPS and that anyone will want to play it and that it will rejuvenate the game is a bit naive)

[Slade]

+1

I like the idea because it could introduce many new people to the full game.  More moving targets for paid dudes too.  Word of mouth advertising could have viral moments.

ALSO

Add an interface where folks with mobile phones could interact with just the FPS components.  To do the full flight model would take the PC version.

With this there would be a constant infusion of peeps migrating to fighter planes and GVs.

[Chris79]

How would the grunt be modeled? If memory serves FPS games like COD one has a health bar and can take multiple potentially fatal hits. It would seem to me that if HTC were to create a damage model of a Grunt then he/she ought to be extremely easy to kill, But it would be interesting especially if HTC added cluster munitions and Napalm. I currently have a glorious vision of dropping napalm on a horde of grunts, and remember, napalm sticks to rooks.

[puller]

+1 for napalm

[Tilt]

I am all for free to play access for Jeeps and  Storch's or any other " support" role rides that may be added in future.


I am not sure about FPS roles here. I would favour deploying infantry ( from vehicles) in a sort of C&C game model.

[XxDaSTaRxx]

Player controlled troops?

Dear god there would be troop missions

"Alright step on up! Bring beer because going this one sector is a 3 hour run! But it will be worth it when our deacker forgets one gun in town and we all die!"

 


EDIT: in to it