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Offline Zerstorer

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Re: Game on, Weakbait.
« Reply #180 on: December 30, 2014, 02:27:32 PM »
Key phrase 'ultimate confidence in one's own abilities'. This part is why you guys just don't get it, you don't have that important belief in yourself.

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I do just fine, thank you very much.

As for the rest....since we are on the subject....why don't you "less ride means more skill" guys accept a challenge....put down your uber turnfighters for a tour?  No Spits, Ki84s, bf109K or Fs, Nikis or F4Us.  Fly only P40s, P39s. ..dog rides.  Show everyone that important belief and superior skill by actually flying the more challenging planes rather than simply talking about it.

Just sayin'!  :old:
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Re: Game on, Weakbait.
« Reply #181 on: December 30, 2014, 02:28:56 PM »
Killing a brewster or a 109E or a P40 does not make me go  :O at their bravery in a virtual flight sim, I kill them, and move on to the next victim  :cheers:

Gotta disagree...Killing a Brewster always brings a smile to my face.   :D
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Re: Game on, Weakbait.
« Reply #182 on: December 30, 2014, 02:29:35 PM »
Quote from: DmonSlyr link=topic=368514.msg4908815#msg4908815 ate=1419969628
Yes which is why I am going to fly the tempest as timidly and as Eee as possible next tour.

Again, I'm not whinning, I just don't think it's right to brag about being good in the MA while having to fly the fastest planes in the game to achieve that. Its great you guys can get kills or W/E but flaunting that in noob easy to catch and kill rides doesn't show much to anyone.

Timid is not E fighting..remember that you need at least 8 KPH, less than 10 deaths and/or captures and.I will say 200 kills , come on show me how easy it is..

I don't understand why you guys think this is bragging, you and AOM are the subjects of many videos because you put yourself there with your mouth..all the quotes in "A whole lotta Muppets" came from your guys, we didn't make you type them! You just need to eat your words....find one post were we specially say "you won't last 2 seconds in the DA with me in any plane" you claimed victory before you had it and it back fired..

Now you are making excuses as to why you lose in the MA? Plane choice?

You might not be impressed, that's your OPINION.

The end result is that we try and kill as many as we can, we get 1000 kills then we don't care who it was and what they were flying..

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Re: Game on, Weakbait.
« Reply #183 on: December 30, 2014, 02:30:07 PM »
 :lol

I do just fine, thank you very much.

As for the rest....since we are on the subject....why don't you "less ride means more skill" guys accept a challenge....put down your uber turnfighters for a tour?  No Spits, Ki84s, bf109K or Fs, Nikis or F4Us.  Fly only P40s, P39s. ..dog rides.  Show everyone that important belief and superior skill by actually flying the more challenging planes rather than simply talking about it.

Just sayin'!  :old:

No your squad should do that and my squad will fly the uber planes and then you will see our point and we will see yours, how about that.
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Re: Game on, Weakbait.
« Reply #184 on: December 30, 2014, 02:33:25 PM »
No your squad should do that and my squad will fly the uber planes and then you will see our point and we will see yours, how about that.

I think my prior post points out your squad flies the uber planes as well...some are just uber in different ways...and some are the same rides (*cough* LA *cough*).

And when I come back I'll still fly my ugly 110.   :D

Just sayin'.
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Re: Game on, Weakbait.
« Reply #185 on: December 30, 2014, 02:37:32 PM »
Timid is not E fighting..remember that you need at least 8 KPH, less than 10 deaths and/or captures and.I will say 200 kills , come on show me how easy it is..

I don't understand why you guys think this is bragging, you and AOM are the subjects of many videos because you put yourself there with your mouth..all the quotes in "A whole lotta Muppets" came from your guys, we didn't make you type them! You just need to eat your words....find one post were we specially say "you won't last 2 seconds in the DA with me in any plane" you claimed victory before you had it and it back fired..

Now you are making excuses as to why you lose in the MA? Plane choice?

You might not be impressed, that's your OPINION.

The end result is that we try and kill as many as we can, we get 1000 kills then we don't care who it was and what they were flying..

What, because he won one duel that I wasn't even remotely serious about 3am, I thought we were just trying to have fun, no way could I have taken that fight seriously. Cool, I'm sure the majority of most AH could have beat me that night. If I was even fighting me id have known I wasnt up to my best performance standards by any means, and not takin it as a litteral serious fight. Hopefully we can have a rematch, but if that's his highest honor than you are kidding yourselves.

As far as the MA goes, I fly planes that I don't have to be 100% in the advantage to win. Like your squad does.
I'm not complaining about it. I was mearly making a comment that I was hoping Skyyr would auger that night. He pulled out the kill for a couple of reasons. I had to dodge another 190D twice and my F4U1 didn't have the ability to climb high enough during the reversals with his E advantage. Not complaining or anything.  It was a kill..good for him...  

I've just played for so long that I don't chose to fly planes with the highest advanatges anymore. I mean I do some, but not even 25% of the time. I like the challenge, after years of playing, flying easy mode planes doesn't bring a challenge. Kills are just kills. Anyone can get them. Making it harder for me to get kills makes it more interesting, and getting the kill by flying a harder plane is much more rewarded than simply just getting kills. But then again, I remember when I first started too, I had the same mentality.
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Re: Game on, Weakbait.
« Reply #186 on: December 30, 2014, 02:42:22 PM »
Sometimes the sheer audacity of bringing the knife to the gunfight with ultimate confidence in one's own abilities pays a dividend that is worth many times more than repeatedly winning with the biggest gun.

Key phrase 'ultimate confidence in one's own abilities'. This part is why you guys just don't get it, you don't have that important belief in yourself.

But when you stroll in with all the confidence in the world and get stomped then you can't whine that more people don't have knives!

Herein lies the problem,  The ego that fuels that ultimate confidence gets hurt when they don't win now instead of saying.."maybe I'll bring a back up gun, along with my knife to this gun fight" they say :

"Wahhh, I only lost because I brought a knife and you suck because you brought a gun....to a gunfight".





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Re: Game on, Weakbait.
« Reply #187 on: December 30, 2014, 02:46:01 PM »
Batfink just gave out a pearl of wisdom and you tool sheds are arguing about it.  I will mash the dislike button for this.   :mad:

Measure skill any way you want, but don't give me this BS about energy fighting being for the more more experienced and skilled.  It's about managing your energy better than your opponents, which takes BFM, average situational awareness, and enough seat time to judge your opponents energy better than he can judge yours.   A useful skill set, no doubt, but can it alone give us cartoon pilot excellence?  No.  


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Re: Game on, Weakbait.
« Reply #188 on: December 30, 2014, 02:46:36 PM »
No your squad should do that and my squad will fly the uber planes and then you will see our point and we will see yours, how about that.

We aren't the ones that are sooo good that we need to fly early war planes to get a challenge...That's a choice YOU make..not my problem.

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Re: Game on, Weakbait.
« Reply #189 on: December 30, 2014, 02:48:51 PM »
This part is why you guys just don't get it, you don't have that important belief in yourself.

Not at all; we simply enjoy standing over the corpses of those who "believed in themselves." They can have their ideals, we'll take the win.
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Re: Game on, Weakbait.
« Reply #190 on: December 30, 2014, 02:49:07 PM »
I really do thank y'all for giving me something to do at work though with this debate. God if I could only actually play the game right now lol
 
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Re: Game on, Weakbait.
« Reply #191 on: December 30, 2014, 02:49:24 PM »
152 with the same pilot should lose to 109s, LAs, P38, F4U, P51D, Dora...

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Re: Game on, Weakbait.
« Reply #192 on: December 30, 2014, 02:53:35 PM »
Batfink just gave out a pearl of wisdom and you tool sheds are arguing about it.  I will mash the dislike button for this.   :mad:

Supreme confidence to walk into a gun fight with a knife and win, check.

Have enough humility to realize I wasn't such a bad mofo when I walked into the gun fight and got murked..mmmmm I don't see this anywhere in this pearl of wisdom..

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Re: Game on, Weakbait.
« Reply #193 on: December 30, 2014, 03:04:39 PM »
I've just played for so long that I don't chose to fly planes with the highest advanatges anymore. I mean I do some, but not even 25% of the time. I like the challenge, after years of playing, flying easy mode planes doesn't bring a challenge. Kills are just kills. Anyone can get them. Making it harder for me to get kills makes it more interesting, and getting the kill by flying a harder plane is much more rewarded than simply just getting kills. But then again, I remember when I first started too, I had the same mentality.

But what you are implying is that because you need the challenge that we should respect the fact that you are so good that you need the challenge therefore if we kill you it doesn't really count because you were just trying to challenge yourself?

Then you say that because we chose not to challenge ourselves in the same way that you choose to do so, makes us worse, or you better? Gives you the right to say what we do is easy, because your challenge to yourself went sideways? That's ludicrous.


Keep it simple and pragmatic ;) whomever wins, wins.

If you lose,  adjust your tactics so you can win.

End of story.

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Re: Game on, Weakbait.
« Reply #194 on: December 30, 2014, 03:20:59 PM »
Supreme confidence to walk into a gun fight with a knife and win, check.

Have enough humility to realize I wasn't such a bad mofo when I walked into the gun fight and got murked..mmmmm I don't see this anywhere in this pearl of wisdom..

If you really want animosity and competition you don't want me to be humble.  You're not my wife so I really have no patience for you not knowing what you want.

P.S. - Arguing with the pearl won't make it less true. 

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