B-29 Superfortress Performance

[Masherbrum]

I'm saying the reason they had that restriction is not because the second you passed 300IAS the plane would rip apart, but it could cause structural damage that could affect it on future flights (weakening of the airframe). Every sortie in AH we get a new plane, so diving faster is not uncommon.

What did the B-29 player do wrong?    Nothing.     What did the OP/262 player do wrong?    A few things and that is all that needs to be said in this thread.    Current sorties/future sorties/past sorties come down to implementation and the 262 should learn how to use altitude to his advantage, instead of giving the opponent the leg up and this thread never gets posted.

[xPoisonx]

What did the B-29 player do wrong?    Nothing.     What did the OP/262 player do wrong?    A few things and that is all that needs to be said in this thread.    Current sorties/future sorties/past sorties come down to implementation and the 262 should learn how to use altitude to his advantage, instead of giving the opponent the leg up and this thread never gets posted.

That statement was addressed to lyric not you.

[lyric1]

I'm saying the reason they had that restriction is not because the second you passed 300IAS the plane would rip apart, but it could cause structural damage that could affect it on future flights (weakening of the airframe). Every sortie in AH we get a new plane, so diving faster is not uncommon.

Why would they put the info in the flight manual that horizontal tail surfaces will peal off over 300 IAS then?

What would be the correct information if not the pilots handbook?

300 IAS would be relevant for the crew on every mission it was to keep the crew alive for the next mission.

[xPoisonx]

Why would they put the info in the flight manual that horizontal tail surfaces will peal off over 300 IAS then?

What would be the correct information if not the pilots handbook?

300 IAS would be relevant for the crew on every mission it was to keep the crew alive for the next mission.

Once again you are confusing what I'm saying with real history. I am talking about the game whose forums we are on. Go to 30k and dive at 300 IAS and tell me how that is a set restriction.

[FLS]

Why would they put the info in the flight manual that horizontal tail surfaces will peal off over 300 IAS then?

What would be the correct information if not the pilots handbook?

300 IAS would be relevant for the crew on every mission it was to keep the crew alive for the next mission.

300 IAS is the max speed for normal dives. This is for limiting the high g loads generated by maneuvering at 300 MPH. It doesn't mean you can't safely go over 300 IAS at 1g.
They probably didn't feel the need to say you could go a little faster if you were going to be shot at.

[bozon]

300mph at 30K is already in the compressibility regime. TAS matters as well.
While the plane may not disintegrate at that speed, it may be unable to safely generate enough G to take it out of the dive without breaking important pieces. Having the drones dive with the lead in formation is just ridiculous.

[lyric1]

300 IAS is the max speed for normal dives. This is for limiting the high g loads generated by maneuvering at 300 MPH. It doesn't mean you can't safely go over 300 IAS at 1g.
They probably didn't feel the need to say you could go a little faster if you were going to be shot at.

Proof please.
Not your theory's.

[FLS]

Airframe fatigue is cumulative. Every flight stresses the airframe. The airframe has an expected useful life based on the accumulation of normal stress. Limiting the normal max dive speed limits the stress accumulation so the airframe attains it's normal lifespan. You can increase the fatigue on a single flight and shorten the useful lifespan without breaking anything.

Getting shot down also limits airframe lifespans. Overstressing the airframe in a high speed dive may limit the lifespan less than getting shot down.

[Lusche]

300mph at 30K is already in the compressibility regime. TAS matters as well.

Unfortunately only for fighters in AH

The B-17 can shallow dive away in formation at speeds sending even the Me 163 can hardly match and is massively fighting compressibility. 

[Chalenge]

Yet, the B-24 has a posted/known speed limitation of 358, which is also its limitation in the game. There is even a warning placard in the cockpit. That said, it is probably YAGC (yet another game concession) because of all the perks that are on the line.

[DaveBB]

Limiting factor on B-24 dive speed is the rubber de-icing boots.  Wasn't one of the procedures to extinguish an engine fire in a B-17 to dive at 375mph?

[bozon]

Limiting factor on B-24 dive speed is the rubber de-icing boots.  Wasn't one of the procedures to extinguish an engine fire in a B-17 to dive at 375mph?

TAS or IAS?
You realize that if this is IAS, the waist gunners are facing an open window with over 500 mph wind blowing through it?

[earl1937]

Limiting factor on B-24 dive speed is the rubber de-icing boots.  Wasn't one of the procedures to extinguish an engine fire in a B-17 to dive at 375mph?

Not sure about safe diving speed of the 17, but in the B-29, if we had an engine fire, we didn't pay much attention to the 342VNE speed! You wouldn't either if you have 600 galleons of 115/145 fuel, which the flames were pouring back over and the FE is desperately transferring fuel overboard or somewhere else as fast as he can! Never had to confront that situation but twice and fire bottles took care of both of them in seconds. Best thing to do is keep CHT's as low in the green arc as you can, then you don't have to been so concerned, unless "Dame Fate" plays a hand you can't beat!

[vHACKv]

262s are terrible at that alt, why did you take it so high? Worried about the perkies? 342 IAS at 30k is 547.2 KTAS by the way

[Zoney]

262s are terrible at that alt, why did you take it so high? Worried about the perkies? 342 IAS at 30k is 547.2 KTAS by the way

I fly 262's at 30k a lot hunting high buffs.  She's a wonderful interceptor at that alt IF you also have speed which take a long time to build up at alt.  I've killed Mossie 16's at 34k in the 262.  So, no, I didn't fly it high because of the perk risks, I flew it high because my enemy was high, and with 4 30's, one pass and one dies.