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Re: Where Are The Army Guys At?
« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2015, 09:05:56 AM »
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It is completely different from when I joined. The Army is trying to build more of the Professional Soldier...which isn't a bad thing at all.
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Re: Where Are The Army Guys At?
« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2015, 01:19:04 PM »
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It is probably a completely different animal now that we are out of Iraq/Afghanistan.

We are? You sure?
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Re: Where Are The Army Guys At?
« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2015, 02:12:56 PM »
We are? You sure?

I meant the day to day life of an infantryman when not actively deploying/training for deployment.

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Re: Where Are The Army Guys At?
« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2015, 05:46:57 PM »
There are still around 10,000 troops in Afghanistan for the foreseeable future, plus thousands of contractors.  There remains an "offensive" capability in Afghanistan.  Iraq/Syria is still heating up and we're up to a few thousand troops already (plus contractors as has become typical).  Africa is a global hot spot and may be the location of our next big troop buildups.  Korea is still a hot location, and we're standing up readiness enablers in Europe again to counter Putin's Russia.

The point being that an Army infantry troop is still very likely to see real-world combat deployments.  They may not be back-to-back like the last 10 years (22 years of continuous combat rotations to the middle east for USAF troops) but there will likely be multiple trips to nasty places for the purpose of killing and dying for the average Army troop in the next 20 years.

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Re: Where Are The Army Guys At?
« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2015, 05:53:41 PM »
And why 11 bravo?

So many choices out there for good jobs in the military, not that grunt isn't good ,, or necessary , but why limit your options so quickly? 

Don't listen to the advice above, Infantry is the best choice that you can start with. You're either Infantry... or you work for the Infantry (that's not just an arrogant saying, it's the truth). If you want another job, stay a civilian, it pays better. Some people don't get the big picture; some day you're going to get old and eventually die. How do you want to remember your life; sitting in a cubicle.... or kicking in doors and making a difference?
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Re: Where Are The Army Guys At?
« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2015, 08:30:19 PM »
One of the best books I've read on modern U.S. infantry is http://www.amazon.com/Death-Ground-Todays-American-Infantry/dp/089141830X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420770299&sr=8-1&keywords=Death+ground "Death Ground".  Written by a professor at the War College, it lays it out pretty straight forward.  The pure infantry, the cutting edge of America's sword, is only about 100,000 strong.  We use force multipliers to assist the infantry, mainly for the reason that the U.S. public can't (and shouldn't have to) stomach lots of infantry deaths.  Anyhow, I suggest reading this little gem if you are deciding to go into the army infantry.
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Re: Where Are The Army Guys At?
« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2015, 08:58:53 PM »
Don't listen to the advice above, Infantry is the best choice that you can start with. You're either Infantry... or you work for the Infantry (that's not just an arrogant saying, it's the truth). If you want another job, stay a civilian, it pays better. Some people don't get the big picture; some day you're going to get old and eventually die. How do you want to remember your life; sitting in a cubicle.... or kicking in doors and making a difference?
You can change career fields later, but your best start is always in the Infantry, don't let anyone tell you different.
I didn't tell him he shouldn't go infantry, I asked why he thought he was going to?

Me and a friend signed up for ranger training in 1982, when it came time to leave, I was sick and couldn't go, they let my friend go and told me I would make the next class and we'd still end up together, I'd just be a little behind.
Well before I could go, he was already home, washed out.
 I waited a while before going back, (tonsils). When I did make it back to MEPS, I had to re test,, I scored in The top 10%, I could do anything I wanted , but all I really wanted was to get in and going,, I could fly that day, and got $6000. Bonus for 36c,, sounded good,
 I was in, I could change jobs later  I was prepared and I had a good chance of making it, and I did ,,
 I worked with infantry, I worked with the Air Force  , I spent time with armor, I went to an air force school for 118 days, I traveled all over Europe,  I did everything there except my job,
  while stateside I trained officers, I trained and evaluated the  Porto Rico national gaurd,  I evaluated infantry platoon qualification and their ability to defend against air targets.
my next school of choice would have been warrant officers school, had I stayed in,
 at any re up time I could have went infantry,, or I could have went, EOD,, EOD paid $10,000 bonus upon completion of school,,   But I went home,  had heart trouble and the rest is history.
 I got an associate degree in electronics and telecommunications systems, had more hours of training than any company in the US required for employment at the time of my EOS, I saw the world, I met people from Greece,  east and west Germany, Korea, England, Porto Rico , Russia, France, , a watched the Berlin Wall come down, I watched the greatest air shows in the world, I watched as the M-1 cut its teeth, as well as the Hummer, I shot rifles with the best In all of Europe , and beat most of them!
Yea, infantry would have been a much better deal!


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Re: Where Are The Army Guys At?
« Reply #37 on: January 08, 2015, 09:46:06 PM »
If that isn't obvious to you, an explanation would take a lot of time  ;)

We (and you) have the time.  Please explain it to this dumb grunt.  Btw, I turned down being trained as a nuclear engineer in the Navy to follow my life's calling.

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Re: Where Are The Army Guys At?
« Reply #38 on: January 09, 2015, 02:43:01 AM »
never volunteer the first 1/2 half of boot camp.  the first 1/2 is reserved for playing in the sand and learning.  after that then if you feel like it go for it.  just remember that is all negative reinforcement.  meaning they will scream at you to quit to "inspire" you to get up and really show your stuff.


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Re: Where Are The Army Guys At?
« Reply #39 on: January 09, 2015, 03:49:01 AM »
We (and you) have the time.  Please explain it to this dumb grunt.

Look, I'm not trying to stir the pot - you're one of the good guys. But I'm sure the point he's trying to make is that the Red Army of 44-45, the Wehrmacht of 41-42, and possibly even Napoleon's Grande Armee all have a greater claim than the US Army to being "The greatest fighting force since the legions of Rome," but none of them sell T-shirts.

Again, I'm really not trying to stir the pot, hump ankles, anything like that.
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Re: Where Are The Army Guys At?
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Re: Where Are The Army Guys At?
« Reply #41 on: January 09, 2015, 08:53:51 AM »
11 bang bang baby! :rock  I qualified for all sorts of jobs, but knew what I wanted to do.


Who can answer "Why is the sky blue?"

I spent two weeks at Benning coordinating testing of shot counters in the grips of M16s and M4s. I saw lots of recruits being trained, but didn't interact with any other than a few drill instructors while we were on the range when they were coming and going.

As to your question: I'm former Navy, but if I was asked that, I'd reply, "because the Army wants it that way!"
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Re: Where Are The Army Guys At?
« Reply #42 on: January 09, 2015, 10:46:04 AM »
 :salute :cheers: Good on yas. My step-grandfather served under Patton from Africa to Germany (later he served in Korea).

However ..... I'm 3rd gen Navy on the other side.



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Re: Where Are The Army Guys At?
« Reply #43 on: January 09, 2015, 11:52:00 AM »
Look, I'm not trying to stir the pot - you're one of the good guys. But I'm sure the point he's trying to make is that the Red Army of 44-45, the Wehrmacht of 41-42, and possibly even Napoleon's Grande Armee all have a greater claim than the US Army to being "The greatest fighting force since the legions of Rome," but none of them sell T-shirts.

Again, I'm really not trying to stir the pot, hump ankles, anything like that.
It's all matter of opinion. But to laugh at the US Army because someone said it's the best land forces since Rome, which it arguably is, is just flat out ignorant.
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Re: Where Are The Army Guys At?
« Reply #44 on: January 09, 2015, 11:52:32 AM »
:salute :cheers: Good on yas. My step-grandfather served under Patton from Africa to Germany (later he served in Korea).

However ..... I'm 3rd gen Navy on the other side.

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