Please consider removing ENY

[LePaul]

This forum is for players to make wishes and subsequent discussions about said wishes.

And to treat each other with common courtesy while discussing such ideas.

The level of insults and put downs over a simple suggestion makes me wonder how many of you guys are over 18

[Karnak]

If ENY were to be removed what do those in favor of removing it propose to do to assist the outnumbered side?

Remember, that is not an insignificant problem that can simply be ignored.  It must be addressed by something.

[Scca]

If ENY were to be removed what do those in favor of removing it propose to do to assist the outnumbered side?

Remember, that is not an insignificant problem that can simply be ignored.  It must be addressed by something.

Many threads have indicated a change to the 12 hour side switch rule and booting players in the tower for excessive amounts of time wluld be a good place to start.

[Karnak]

Many threads have indicated a change to the 12 hour side switch rule and booting players in the tower for excessive amounts of time wluld be a good place to start.

Without ENY neither of those would be productive in mitigating the misery of the side that is out numbered.

Booting offline players is moot if ENY doesn't exist as they have no actual effect on the game.

Allowing players to switch sides more often would probably exacerbate the problem as players on the ganged side switch to a side not being ganged more than players on the ganging side switch to the ganged side.

[Tilt]

It must be addressed by something.

I am not sure this is the case.............. any more.

It would be nice to think that reducing the majority side to higher ENY ac balances things from a players perspective....... statistically across the three country set this may be the case, but in terms of individual (and local) game play there are much greater levels of miss balance in play that mask this influence on game play whilst denying access to ac.

Local combat to an individual can be unbalanced with respect to quantity of attackers, E state, base attrition etc in both positive and negative ways regardless of which side is enjoying an ENY advantage. Indeed the local numbers game far out ways any ENY bias.

Combat is localised throughout terrains such that if one battle isn't any fun then many folk go and participate in another.

So I do not think it HAS to be replaced.

However if there was a need to replace it I would use a system that did not deny access to certain ac totally. A more dynamic perk system in use across all aircraft would enable players to use any aircraft provided they had the perks to deposit.

This "perk currency" would then be in play.....

It could be used so many ways.

It could be used such that (as now) the perk deposit is indirectly proportional to side balance.

It could also be used on a side influenced supply and demand model. (if everyone on one side is using Spit XVI's then the deposit required in creases). {hmmm missions??}

But the core point would be.... don't deny access...... just increase the deposit price.

[kvuo75]

you'll just get people crying that their favorite ride costs too much.

[Oldman731]

you'll just get people crying that their favorite ride costs too much.

Yup.

Hey, I don't pay $14.95 a month so I can't fly my favorite plane!

- oldman

[shake307]

Yeah, that would be a total shame if 14 year veterans could throw perks at their "favorite" plane and dominate a side that is already outnumbered.  We also can't forget that some people would cry that their favorite planes would cost too much.  I don't really have a lot of time in this game, but I fully agree that a K4 should be perked.  Also, the C205.  But only when my side outnumbers the bad guys.  That way, I am able to use the "worse" planes so my much better teammates can keep flying their uber planes while keeping their perks flowing and denying me and my old one more chance to play the way others want.  ENY is easy to understand and does a better job at balance than a lot of these suggestions.  I say when ENY goes up, we scale pilot perk point amount inversely to aircraft choice.  Higher ENY planes for wealthier players.  That way I can still fly my runstang and twitfire while you rich folk are stuck in Storches and C47s.  That is my 15 cents for my 15 bucks a month.  Ya know, for this community wanting to get new players, closing off even more chances for them seems like a stupid way of bring them in.

[shake307]

Please excuse some of my typos in my last post.  I am typing on my phone and likes to ruin eloquence.

[caldera]

but I fully agree that a K4 should be perked.  Also, the C205.

Perk the C.205?   

The K-4 could have its ENY lowered to 10-12, but if you think the 205 should be perked then half the planes in the game should be perked.

Off the top of my head, these planes are more uber than the 205:

G-14
K-4
110G
B-239
F4U
F6F
FM2
190
Ki-84
N1K
LA
Mossie
P-38
P47
P-51
Yak - except 7
Seafire
Spit 9-16
Typh
Tempon

[bozon]

ENY limiter did not always exist in AH and so is the 12H rule. Their combination is supposed to balance the 3 sides and I am pretty sure that these days the sides are as balanced as they ever were. This is why HT is so reluctant to change these rules - finally after many years, they work. Side balancing used to be a much bigger issue that ENY locking is these days.

I never understood the complaints about ENY. "What? La7, TA152, P51D, P38L, Spit16 are locked? No! I can't possibly fly the LA5, 190A, P51B, P38J, Spit8/9, they are such pos planes!". What player can seriously claim to be a Pony fan and refuse to fly the B pony?. True, when ENY limit reach 25 that can be a problem, but then the side balancing is an even bigger problem.

Using a perk cost instead of a hard ENY lock is interesting but problematic. It favors veteran players and players that fly high ENY planes regularly and have perks overflowing on their account. The latter do not have a problem  ENYway. I will be willing to pay 900 perks or more for a 262 when I want one instead of having it completely locked.

[Oldman731]

Perk the C.205? 

205 is a pig.

- oldman

[shake307]

Watch it oldman,  I love the C205.