Perk the Hetzer.

[Lusche]

Noted on the terminology.  I will be more specific-Isn't one of those slopey front tanks perked already? 

Yes, but that are entirely different vehicles. Different chassis, guns, everything.

The Jagdpanzer 38(t) "Hetzer" was based on the Pz 38(t) chassis (essentially a Czech pre war tank) with the 75mm gun we know from the Panzer IV lightly armored, but very tiny and heavily sloped
The perked Jagdpanzer IV/70 was pased on the Panzer IV, mated with the Panther's KwK.
The perked Jagdpanther was based on the Panther tank and carried ther same 88mm gun the King Tiger featured.

The only thing those three vehicles have in common is the basic concept.

[waystin2]

Yes, but that are entirely different vehicles. Different chassis, guns, everything.

The Jagdpanzer 38(t) "Hetzer" was based on the Pz 38(t) chassis (essentially a Czech pre war tank) with the 75mm gun we know from the Panzer IV lightly armored, but very tiny and heavily sloped
The perked Jagdpanzer IV/70 was pased on the Panzer IV, mated with the Panther's KwK.
The perked Jagdpanther was based on the Panther tank and carried ther same 88mm gun the King Tiger featured.

The only thing those three vehicles have in common is the basic concept.

Two of them are perked already.  Any idea of usage of the Hetzer, it's K/D, etc. vs other armor Lusche?

[Lusche]

Two of them are perked already.  Any idea of usage of the Hetzer, it's K/D, etc. vs other armor Lusche?

As you wish, Sire:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,345669.msg4927910.html#msg4927910

[waystin2]

As you wish, Sire:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,345669.msg4927910.html#msg4927910

Thank you Sir.  The Hetzer is used alot and it had the highest K/D for.non-perked tanks.

[Lusche]

Thank you Sir.  The Hetzer is used alot
 almost as much as the Panzer IV.  Wow.  

Not at all.  

The Panzer IV H alone has over four times as many tank vs tank kills and deaths.

[waystin2]

Not at all.  

The Panzer IV H alone has over four times as many tank vs tank kills and deaths.

See my edit.  Lol did not see the lonely Panzer IV all the way at top of screen.  Darn small phone screens.  Ty again Lusche.

[TopGear]

  East kill from aircraft so no perky ride. 

M18 is an easier kill from aircraft and its perked...

[lyric1]

M18 is an easier kill from aircraft and its perked...

The real kicker is the M4/76 is perked.

[JunkyII]

The real kicker is the M4/76 is perked.

I think the 76 is better then the Firefly

[Rich46yo]

Bring on the SU-100.

[Butcher]

All of the tank destroyers have a weakness on their front armor. The front armor slopes upward except for a small section that slopes under the tank at the bottom. If you can get a round to land there it's almost a guaranteed kill, regardless of range. This weakness also exists on the KT and the Panther.

Me and Hooter did a test on this years ago, with film and sent it in; apparently nothing was wrong to be "Wrong" even though an M4 can penetrate the lower plates of a Panther at 1500+ yards. It was rather annoying if you knew how to exploit it; I honestly never did however hooter did; and we quickly stopped using the Panther because it was easy to penetrate from the front.