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Offline Nathan60

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Re: The solutrean hypothesis
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2015, 06:35:38 AM »
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Re: The solutrean hypothesis
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2015, 07:09:33 AM »
Bustr tell us you were joking and forget what happened.
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Re: The solutrean hypothesis
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2015, 07:13:10 AM »
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Re: The solutrean hypothesis
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2015, 08:46:38 AM »
Quote from: Lusche on February 18, 2015, 05:15:14 AM
http://www.snopes.com/media/notnews/giantcoverup.asp

There is a group in the US that really has it in for the Smithsonian, especially with anything having to do with ancient peoples settling in north America.   As far as I can tell it has something to do with the Smithsonian suppressing evidence that there was an ancient northern tribe. 
 :noid :noid :noid

Strange stuff, comes up in main stream venues from time to time in the US.
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Makes it kind of hard to read and process archaeological research b/c in the back of my mind I keep asking myself who wrote this. :mad:



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Re: The solutrean hypothesis
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2015, 02:07:53 AM »
All stories have some basis of fact often far removed from reality. American Indians seem to have similar legends about peoples of large stature.

The red haired cannibal giants in Nevada and near Humbolt lake. More likely a now extinct large red haired people in that area. The paiute oral legends state they were cannibals who killed and ate the paiutes. There is the Lovelock cave in Nevada.

The oral tradition chronicled can be found at amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0874172527?ie=UTF8&tag=stockmarketselec&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0874172527

Now back to the Solutreans........

1917 Geological Report for Florida. Pleistocene era human remains were found near Vero Beach. This has been recently backed up from other findings. Would seem probable that the bones could be from solutrean Europeans.

1917 Geological Report.

http://ufdc.ufl.edu/UF00000001/00009/6j

Recent articles.
https://markgelbart.wordpress.com/2015/02/05/an-update-on-vero-beach-man/
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/tandf/jovp/2012/00000032/00000003/art00016
http://www.veronews.com/news/vero_beach/spotlight/ancient-vero-bone-to-get-dna-test-at-smithsonian-lab/article_4fc38954-e498-11e0-a799-001a4bcf6878.html

Even Wiki which seems to be dealing with this neutrally.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vero_man


 
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Re: The solutrean hypothesis
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2015, 08:19:45 AM »
my wife and I watched this on America Unearthed last night.  that guy has some very interesting posits and theories.    the evidence that he presents most definitely suggests world wide travel.
 think I might set DVR so I don't miss this one.
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Re: The solutrean hypothesis
« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2015, 11:26:49 AM »
What does Don Corneius have to do with this? Oh that's Soul Train. My bad! :D
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Re: The solutrean hypothesis
« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2015, 04:58:55 AM »
The Soul Train don't need no defence, baby.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBKi4MEPBsQ

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Re: The solutrean hypothesis
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2015, 05:11:33 AM »
While I still believe in the Bering land bridge, for arguments sake, what's to say that peoples didn't migrate over an Atlantic land bridge. There is geological evidence that Artic glaciers came down and covered areas like Great Britain and portions of mainland Europe, and North America.  A land bridge could have been formed between Great Britain, to Iceland to Greenland. From there North America is just a hop skip and a jump.

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Re: The solutrean hypothesis
« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2015, 02:45:29 PM »
Modern archeology\anthropology\paleontology is about funding, politics, orthodoxy and ego. Worse than these forums.

The Solutrean theory if correct, dry's up PBS specials, summer fun in the woods, paychecks, fame, book deals, tenure and scientific authority for a lot of people who other wise have to get real jobs while watching their publications loose validity.

All of the camps involved on the status quo side are smart enough to prove the Solutrean migration to the east coast is possible. Once they do that, they stop being the status quo.
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Re: The solutrean hypothesis
« Reply #25 on: February 25, 2015, 04:26:50 PM »
    Ok, somebody Google "Windover Site" in central Florida on the East coast near Vero Beach.  DNA was recovered from brains, yes, brains that were found to be 7000 years old.
    The DNA from the brains of 4 individuals disclosed definite European lineage in 2 persons and different, but still European lineage in the other 2 persons.  Also discovered was textile remains made from local fiber.
    Clearly the Americas were settled at many times by many different groups.
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Re: The solutrean hypothesis
« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2015, 06:55:39 PM »
Quote from: Gray on February 25, 2015, 04:26:50 PM
    Ok, somebody Google "Windover Site" in central Florida on the East coast near Vero Beach.  DNA was recovered from brains, yes, brains that were found to be 7000 years old.
    The DNA from the brains of 4 individuals disclosed definite European lineage in 2 persons and different, but still European lineage in the other 2 persons.  Also discovered was textile remains made from local fiber.
    Clearly the Americas were settled at many times by many different groups.

Thanks for the reference.
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Re: The solutrean hypothesis
« Reply #27 on: February 25, 2015, 07:16:32 PM »
Quote from: Gray on February 25, 2015, 04:26:50 PM
    Ok, somebody Google "Windover Site" in central Florida on the East coast near Vero Beach.  DNA was recovered from brains, yes, brains that were found to be 7000 years old.
    The DNA from the brains of 4 individuals disclosed definite European lineage in 2 persons and different, but still European lineage in the other 2 persons.  Also discovered was textile remains made from local fiber.
    Clearly the Americas were settled at many times by many different groups.

Wow, very intresting read!
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Re: The solutrean hypothesis
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Re: The solutrean hypothesis
« Reply #29 on: November 09, 2015, 11:00:06 AM »
 http://www.angelfire.com/va/mobjackrelics/trimble/ttasolutrean.html

Have a look at some Solutrean-like finds from the collection of the late Mark Small

 The smaller four examples of indented base Solutrean-like specimens were recovered along a shore already long known for producing paleo artifacts and pleistocene era fossils

The larger two were recovered by dredge just about 6-8 miles off-shore of this beachfront, along what was once the banks of the Susquehanna and Rappahannock River's sunken channels
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