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Re: 2014 GT500 vs BMW M4
« Reply #45 on: February 26, 2015, 08:03:27 PM »
Now that is an accurate write up Widewing.   Apparently you have a vast repository of info on not just WW2 aviation but racing as well.  I have an extended family member, a cousin of some sort of my mothers, who was the only Can-Am champion other than Jaques Villeneuve in the later Can Am years, and I used to hear about it a lot when I was younger.   Horst Kroll, he had a VW shop as well, and always worked on my parents VW Bugs and VW Van when I was a kid. 

SO much technology was invented back in that series, I wish something along those lines would return, as I agree, the current racing series are very limited by rules, regulations, and other bureaucratic BS that it's hampering not just the racing, but the innovations.  F1 this year - this is the first time I've never watched any of the races live, it's completely lost so many people, guys I know that used to be so invested in following it.

Same goes with so many other series.  I'd rather watch street racing videos online than many of the racing series I used to follow, at least there it isn't governed by a bunch of bureaucrats, and driven by competition even if it's in an amateur-hour way.

Gman, when I was a kid, I had two passions... Airplanes and racing cars. The best I could do at 13 was race slot cars, and I did that for a couple of years. When we went to a race, it was for the entire weekend. We brought tents and coolers packed into the family station wagon. I got to meet, shake hands with and chat with most of the Can-Am drivers of the era. In those days, it was very informal in the paddock, completely unlike today. Those drivers always took time for kids. Dan Gurney, Bruce McLaren and Denny Hulme were especially gracious. Jim Hall was not much of a talker, but if you asked the right question, he'd open up.
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Re: 2014 GT500 vs BMW M4
« Reply #46 on: February 28, 2015, 12:15:12 PM »
I never really hit it with Can Am nor Open Wheel even F1.

I am a GT guy with my golden area in the late 50s early 60s, I'm a sucker for those body style and sounds.

Here some car porn. :kiss:
Aston DBR1, 250TR, D type, Maserati 300S ...


Win Percy D Type commentary:


Alfa TZ2


DB4GT


And I think my all time favorite E Type Lowdrag:





In the 80s I was obcessed by British TOCA and DTM. But today's racing I'm still a GT class guy, that's where the best racing is to me. AMLS, Pirelli Challenge, any world GT3/GT4.
Here's 2015 12H Bathurst finish ... Audi/Bentley/Aston/GTR/Porsche  :cool:


I wished those type of racing were properly covered in the US.  :frown:
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Re: 2014 GT500 vs BMW M4
« Reply #47 on: February 28, 2015, 03:11:54 PM »
Took advantage of the sunny weather today got more video.  I had two cameras running.  If I can figure out to piece them together... I did a burnout with a rear facing view and a 0-150 sprint.  If want to see it, just search YT.  I should have it posted later this week.
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Re: 2014 GT500 vs BMW M4
« Reply #48 on: February 28, 2015, 06:32:18 PM »
I use windows movie maker. U can import the vids and cut/merge as necessary as well as direct upload to youtube.
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Re: 2014 GT500 vs BMW M4
« Reply #49 on: March 06, 2015, 02:43:28 PM »
Bump - a short vid of a burnout and a sprint to 150 MPH on the A8

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Re: 2014 GT500 vs BMW M4
« Reply #50 on: March 06, 2015, 03:06:49 PM »
nice Ammo

A8 is the Autobahn right?

could you explain that to me?

does it just straight up not have a speed limit?

only the far lane is limitless?

with the speeds that are done on that highway....are there lots of crashes? (im thinking less then ours)




I always heard of the Autobahn, would love to have a road like that in the states...

supposedly out west there are highways that have no speed limit, but I haven't seen any, I only visited a few states though so I suppose there could be some.

out in Texas... Arizona.... new mexico...ECT ECT,.....there certainly could easily be roads that have no speed limit.


man that would be fun :D

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Re: 2014 GT500 vs BMW M4
« Reply #51 on: March 06, 2015, 03:25:03 PM »
In Texas, we have stretches of highways with 75, 80, and 85MPH speed limits.

Once a year, the state closes a stretch of road for a race. http://www.bborr.com/  There is an "unlimited" class which has no speed limit, or you can settle for one of the other classes which range in average speed limits from 112MPH to 180MPH.

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Re: 2014 GT500 vs BMW M4
« Reply #52 on: March 06, 2015, 03:48:16 PM »
Highway 130 in Texas right Skuzzy?  I've read it's about 75km of 85 mph limit.  I don't know why this isn't adopted in Canada in more places.  There are a few roads that have 120 kmh limit, call it 75 ish, but a huge majority of the Trans Canada highway is 110, which is ridiculous considering how wide, long, and flat a majority of it is.  They always say it's for "safety", IMO it's mainly about "revenue", if it's safe enough for 10 year old beat up RCMP cars to cruise at 140 everywhere I see them, it should be safe enough for a 100$k high performance car, or any modern car that's built to cruise comfortably and safely at these still moderate speeds. 

That race looks like a lot of fun, I wish we had something similar, that was done monthly on various roads in the summer.

Nice vid Ammo.  You must get velocitized pretty badly on that A8 and other German highways, when you come back to the USA or have to drive on 100kmh posted roads there, it must feel like walking.  I know after a few higher speed runs I've done back in the day, doing the posted limit here on Canadian highways that you can see straight ahead for about 50 miles with no curves, it feels like you're in 1st gear on a treadmill- SO slow.

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Re: 2014 GT500 vs BMW M4
« Reply #53 on: March 06, 2015, 03:54:36 PM »
In Texas, we have stretches of highways with 75, 80, and 85MPH speed limits.

Once a year, the state closes a stretch of road for a race. http://www.bborr.com/  There is an "unlimited" class which has no speed limit, or you can settle for one of the other classes which range in average speed limits from 112MPH to 180MPH.

Texas would be the perfect place to have some highways with no speed limit.

hell in NH now they upped the limit to 75 recently...

personally I think they should start teaching drivers ED right in the 4th grade learn all the road laws and the physics and then when you hit 8th grade they have driving sims to practice on...then in 9th grade you take it to the road, when you graduate you have certified to drive on the roads.

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Re: 2014 GT500 vs BMW M4
« Reply #54 on: March 06, 2015, 03:58:49 PM »
Arizona has 75 mph limits on highways outside of cities, and I have found law enforcement forgiving for speeds far above that.  I got pulled over doing 108 in a 70 on the I-8 to San Diego just inside the California border on my motorcycle.  He did not just let me go but wrote me a ticket for 75 in a 70.  I'd say that was pretty forgiving.
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Re: 2014 GT500 vs BMW M4
« Reply #55 on: March 06, 2015, 04:37:19 PM »
As we all know, the Autobahn system was the brainchild of Adolph Hitler.  IMO, it is the single positive legacy of an otherwise evil person.


Not unlike the US Interstate system, the main highways are numbered in single digits while secondary highways numbered double and triple digits.  The US interstate system number north/south highways in odd numbers and east/west in even numbers.  Germany doesn't do that.


The Autobahn is not completely unrestricted - from what I just gathered from wikipedia, about 50% of the entire  system is unrestricted (with a recommended speed of 130 kph) with the other 48% controlled at a lawful speed.


The A8 is a main artery highway that runs NW to SE through the center of the Stuttgart metroplex.  It is contolled atb 100-120 kph through town but is unrestricted just outside of the city.  the quickest way for me to find a spot to open the car up is head NW toward Karsrühl.  The 3-4 lane stretch of unrestricted highway is about 30 kilometers long.  There  are better highways - the A7 toward Austria through Ulm;  The A5 from Heidelberg to France, the 81 from Herrenberg to Switzerland..etc


German law is you must always pass on the left. 


Crashes are fewer than in town but when they happen, they can be catastrophic
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Re: 2014 GT500 vs BMW M4
« Reply #56 on: March 06, 2015, 04:40:10 PM »
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Re: 2014 GT500 vs BMW M4
« Reply #57 on: March 06, 2015, 04:45:07 PM »
Texas would be the perfect place to have some highways with no speed limit.

hell in NH now they upped the limit to 75 recently...

personally I think they should start teaching drivers ED right in the 4th grade learn all the road laws and the physics and then when you hit 8th grade they have driving sims to practice on...then in 9th grade you take it to the road, when you graduate you have certified to drive on the roads.

I agree about the education, but we also need better traffic laws and traffic management before we plunge into open ended speeds.  The lunatics around here would drive with both feet flat on the floor, if they could, all the while swerving all over the road passing slower traffic.  It would be a disaster to let the untrained loose at full speed without the proper infrastructure to support it.
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« Reply #58 on: March 06, 2015, 05:03:55 PM »
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« Reply #59 on: March 06, 2015, 05:06:23 PM »
I agree about the education, but we also need better traffic laws and traffic management before we plunge into open ended speeds.  The lunatics around here would drive with both feet flat on the floor, if they could, all the while swerving all over the road passing slower traffic.  It would be a disaster to let the untrained loose at full speed without the proper infrastructure to support it.

not just around there :rofl