Author Topic: By request. energy/Speed retention P-51 vs Brewster  (Read 10231 times)

Offline Zimme83

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Re: By request. energy/Speed retention P-51 vs Brewster
« Reply #60 on: March 13, 2015, 02:04:27 PM »
Absolutley. that diagram have improved my score with like 100%, Its not really about turning as tight as u can, it is about turning just tight enough.
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Re: By request. energy/Speed retention P-51 vs Brewster
« Reply #61 on: March 13, 2015, 08:11:09 PM »
Would be interesting putting in more planes into that nice energy manoeuvrability graph.
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Re: By request. energy/Speed retention P-51 vs Brewster
« Reply #62 on: March 14, 2015, 09:01:32 AM »
Is a few out:




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Re: By request. energy/Speed retention P-51 vs Brewster
« Reply #63 on: March 14, 2015, 03:14:53 PM »
I've seen those maneuverability plots before but I don't understand how to read them. Can someone explain?  I understand the outside curve, the one that hits a sustained 6g turn, but what is the inside curve (for example for the Spit IX that shows about 20 dps at 200 mph)?  Is the outside (higher) curve the instantaneous turn rate the the inside (lower) the sustained?

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Re: By request. energy/Speed retention P-51 vs Brewster
« Reply #64 on: March 14, 2015, 03:21:54 PM »
Correct 715. :old:
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Re: By request. energy/Speed retention P-51 vs Brewster
« Reply #65 on: March 14, 2015, 03:55:02 PM »
I've seen those maneuverability plots before but I don't understand how to read them. Can someone explain?  I understand the outside curve, the one that hits a sustained 6g turn, but what is the inside curve (for example for the Spit IX that shows about 20 dps at 200 mph)?  Is the outside (higher) curve the instantaneous turn rate the the inside (lower) the sustained?

The lower line is the PS=0 line. It's the combination of speed and g where you don't speed up or slow down because thrust equals drag. It's useful to know because you can gain speed or altitude while turning below the PS=0 line.