Cost for Bomber Bailing Epidemic

[Wiley]

I see why you are so concerned now with my posts you bail out of bombers more than you land them.

   I fly to intercept buffs and fighters, mostly.  On the rare occasions when I do fly buffs, it's usually to take out a CV, which means lower alt, which means I get shot down a lot.  I can unequivocally say that in this game I've never bailed from any aircraft in the arenas that wasn't on its way down due to damage.  Not once.

I am concerned with your posts because your idea is laughably easy to get around, therefore would have no effect on the behavior.  That's all.

Wiley.

[lyric1]

No he does not.  Ever.  I've know Wiley for 10 years, from WarBirds to here.  Wiley ALWAYS play's fair, to a fault.  I've got no idea what set you off but again sir, you are dead wrong.

I expect an apology to Wiley sir.

Your right I misread the stats.

[lyric1]

  I fly to intercept buffs and fighters, mostly.  On the rare occasions when I do fly buffs, it's usually to take out a CV, which means lower alt, which means I get shot down a lot.  I can unequivocally say that in this game I've never bailed from any aircraft in the arenas that wasn't on its way down due to damage.  Not once.

I am concerned with your posts because your idea is laughably easy to get around, therefore would have no effect on the behavior.  That's all.

Wiley.

My apologies I was wrong I misread the stats.

[Wiley]

My apologies I was wrong I misread the stats.

Ah, ok.  I was kind of wondering what you were looking at, I don't think I've touched a buff in months.  No worries in any case. 

Wiley.

[Zoney]

Good man Lyric 

[bustr]

Sooooo.....

Any ideas on which group of players someone is going to ask Hitech to horse whip next month?

1. - HO'ers
2. - Lancstuka'ers
3. - Shade account'ers
4. - Score whoer 'ers
5. - Spawn camper'ers
6. - Ack hider'ers
7. - Runstanger'ers
8. - Ch200 whiner'ers
9. - Rader and ord kamikazier'ers
10. - HQ bomb and bailer'ers

There are several more but, Skuzzy has decided to ban players over those these days. So even HTC has a limit to this.

[Zoney]

11.  Alt Monkeys

(wortheless denizeens of the Zoneysphere, contribute nothing to the game, the scourge of AFK's and Bombers, lets perk them if they go above 15k)

[Wiley]

Sooooo.....

Any ideas on which group of players someone is going to ask Hitech to horse whip next month?

1. - HO'ers
2. - Lancstuka'ers
3. - Shade account'ers
4. - Score whoer 'ers
5. - Spawn camper'ers
6. - Ack hider'ers
7. - Runstanger'ers
8. - Ch200 whiner'ers
9. - Rader and ord kamikazier'ers
10. - HQ bomb and bailer'ers

There are several more but, Skuzzy has decided to ban players over those these days. So even HTC has a limit to this.

11.  Alt Monkeys

12. - Vulcher'ers
13. - All of the above, and more.

I'll take $50 on 13, bustr.  (Sad thing is, I bet if one monitored the BBS for the month and ticked them off as they were mentioned, you would honestly hit every one of them.)

Wiley.

[icepac]

It's simple to see that the wussification trend within the general population has come to aces high.

[bustr]

If Hitech let the DA'ers redesign the game, the MA would be 5mile x 5mile bordered with 50,000ft cliffs. No airfields, just air start spawns from your clipboard. And ch200 would be full of, go to the TA you worthless sissy useless dreg of life shoulda been strangled at birth.

Then when the last 10 subscribers were left. They would be in here attacking Hitech for not making this game attractive to the right kind of people.

The entirety of that silly list describes the most important aspect of keeping customers staying in a combat game. A way out no matter what, if they have not goofed and gotten blind sided.

You will not keep many customers in a combat game if they perceive it to be a "Kobayashi Maru" in the face of the type of fun they want to accomplish with their limited amount of time online.

The 50,000ft cliffs and air start only would be one heck of a horse whipping from Hitech's hand. If he swings a whip to force paying customers to perceive they now face a "Kobayashi Maru" where they once had fun. You will have fewer players than we have now. None of you with this request of the month horse whipping by Hitech, are facing a "Kobayashi Maru" by those players you want whipped over their activities.

[The Fugitive]

Can you imagine the fun everyone would have!

Sooooo.....

Any ideas on which group of players someone is going to ask Hitech to horse whip next month?

1. - HO'ers  People maneuvering for shots and to avoid being hit by one!
2. - Lancstuka'ers  HEavy bombers being used as... wait for it... HEAVY BOMBERS!
3. - Shade account'ers  Knowing who your fighting, much like in the war where the hot shots had special marking BOLDLY proclaiming who there were instead of hiding
4. - Score whoer 'ers Score might mean something and could be used as a gauge
5. - Spawn camper'ers people traveling in convoys with out riders protection in groups, having other groups intersept and ambush!
6. - Ack hider'ers  People having to fight instead of hide!
7. - Runstanger'ers  People having to fight instead of hide!
8. - Ch200 whiner'ers  People having fun being CIVIL to each other!
9. - Rader and ord kamikazier'ers  People having to fight instead of hide!
10. - HQ bomb and bailer'ers People having to fight instead of hide!

There are several more but, Skuzzy has decided to ban players over those these days. So even HTC has a limit to this.

...and if your referring to the 12 hours rule, the topic is not taboo, the attitude and lack of respect toward HTC IS.

It's funny, a game about combat has so many ways to avoid it!

[Oldman731]

Sooooo.....

Any ideas on which group of players someone is going to ask Hitech to horse whip next month?

14.  Grouchy old men.

- oldman (you know who you are)

[guncrasher]

If that logic holds up, then there is no reason to have a "bail out" option. Change the game so that you are in your plane until your die, or you .ef.

-1 for that idea as well. 

point nose down, hit the floor, you die end of flight.


semp

[Slade]

Any ideas on which group of players someone is going to ask Hitech to horse whip next month?

Taking things out of context can skew the issue of course.  The question really is: "does the said event\action keep paid players from the prime objective of this game: Air Combat?".

If so what can reasonably be done about it?  THAT is the entire context with respect to Bomber Bailing as described here.  Those that bail with the single intention to deprive another of the opportunity of combat.  There are many bailing actions that do not do this.  More power to them.

[Chalenge]

The reason these guys bail is fairly simple. From their perspective they quickly run into information overload and do not know how to go about combating a fighter that understands how to attack bombers. There is even a small percentage of bomber pilots that have such terrible PC performance that even a fighter that sits 600 yards off the tail is impossible to hit. There is also a few pilots that immediately dive to the deck so that the only possible attack is from their six position, but also they are trying to just cross the fence on any possible target to hit with their bombs. If you, as a fighter pilot, can force this behavior from a bomber pilot that has taken so much time to gain that hard-won altitude, then you have won.

The only thing HTC could possibly do is extend the proximity range to 10k for bomber aircraft in enemy territory, but that would only work to get your name in lights more often when you have not actually fought anyone. To me, that's worse than bailing from a perfectly sound bomber. We will just have to live with this as part of online combat.