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« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2015, 10:16:58 AM »
Thanks for the info men , mbailey , send me that 270 info when you can .
One has to be careful when shooting the BOSS , my long time big game hunting buddy learned to stay behind me when we go to take down a running deer . He shoot's the 270 to but his does no have the BOSS on it . Sometimes I wish I can take it off from my ears ringing after a day shooting it .

For shooting on the range you really need to go with double hearing protection.  Good quality custom fit earplugs if you can find them (foamies are better than nothing though) and good quality external ear protection over the ears. 
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« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2015, 10:19:44 AM »
1.  Get yourself published reloading data from reliable sources.  IMR, Hodgden, Speer, Nosler, etc.

2.  Never exceed published loads.  Even though the loads are designed to fire in servicable firearms from all eras, don't push it in you modern BAR.

3. Your BAR will be more sensitive to pressure than a bolt action in the same caliber.

4. Buy new brass to start and reuse those. Keep track off how many times you've fired each case.  I kept plastic bins labeled new, 1, 2, etc

5.  Get good equipment.  I prefer RCBS, but there are others just as good. I recommend a solid press, case trimmer, flash hole deburr tool, scale, primer set tool, tumbler,  powder funnel and case debur tool.

6.  Always trim and debut new cases.  You will get better results at the range. 

7. Automated powder chargers have come a long way, but I always preferred to spoon my loads to the exact charge.

8. If these are huntting loads, start at least 5 grains under max published load and work up in half grain increments.  I always built 5 rounds per given load and headed to the range.  Fires from sandbags and recorded the results.

9. Not mandatory, but I recommend a chronograph.  It will tell you a lot about your loads.

10. Watch for tell tell excessive pressure signs. Flattened primers, cases that "stretch" after firing, etc. 
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« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2015, 10:24:05 AM »
One other thing I liked to do - o weighed each individual bullet and case. I rarely had a good bullet have any variation, but it happened.  You will see variation in cases.  If they are more than 2-4 grains out from the batch, toss them. Heavier case means more pressure and variation when you are printing holes on paper.
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« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2015, 10:39:25 AM »
Thanks ammo , When I was reloading AA hulls . I was putting 4 grams of blue dot powder in them backed with number 4's and it finely tore that browning light 12 all to pieces . Lucky I did not blow it up .
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« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2015, 11:06:42 AM »
Flench, keep in mind that for the rifle you won't be able to shoot cast bullets at your normal velocity, only reduced loads. They will lead the barrel very very badly otherwise. You will need to buy jacketed bullets to get normal velocities in the rifle.

Secondly the max velocity is almost never the max accurate load. It is never the most economical either in the cost of powder or case longevity not to mention wear and tear on the rifle. A long time ago I stopped worrying about getting the max velocity and only concern myself with getting an accurate load.
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Re: Reloads
« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2015, 11:28:54 AM »
Flench, keep in mind that for the rifle you won't be able to shoot cast bullets at your normal velocity, only reduced loads. They will lead the barrel very very badly otherwise. You will need to buy jacketed bullets to get normal velocities in the rifle.

Secondly the max velocity is almost never the max accurate load. It is never the most economical either in the cost of powder or case longevity not to mention wear and tear on the rifle. A long time ago I stopped worrying about getting the max velocity and only concern myself with getting an accurate load.
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« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2015, 11:35:01 AM »
For shooting on the range you really need to go with double hearing protection.  Good quality custom fit earplugs if you can find them (foamies are better than nothing though) and good quality external ear protection over the ears. 
I finally got use to wearing those foamies back when I ran a printing press all the time . I use them now when I am out just shooting  (have to with the BOSS system] but where it get;s me is that I can't wear them while hunting and that is where I am getting my hearing damaged  now .
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« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2015, 12:09:42 PM »
Thanks ammo , When I was reloading AA hulls . I was putting 4 grams of blue dot powder in them backed with number 4's and it finely tore that browning light 12 all to pieces . Lucky I did not blow it up .

Never ever try a load you read from a post on a flight sim forum!  Having said that - I loaded some ammo for a buddy who used a BAR in 270.  It was accurate for his rifle and safe.  I can't recall the exact amount of powder but I used IMR4831 with a 130 grain Nosler BT (yellow tip) with CCI match primers.  I think it was around 50 grains of powder. 

Eventually you will read that you can build a more accurate load by measuring and seating the bullet to match your rifle's distance to the rifling lands.  Don't try that with your BAR.  You will likely having feeding problems or worse.
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« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2015, 12:14:51 PM »
Never ever try a load you read from a post on a flight sim forum!  Having said that - I loaded some ammo for a buddy who used a BAR in 270.  It was accurate for his rifle and safe.  I can't recall the exact amount of powder but I used IMR4831 with a 130 grain Nosler BT (yellow tip) with CCI match primers.  I think it was around 50 grains of powder. 

Eventually you will read that you can build a more accurate load by measuring and seating the bullet to match your rifle's distance to the rifling lands.  Don't try that with your BAR.  You will likely having feeding problems or worse.
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« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2015, 12:18:05 PM »
I finally got use to wearing those foamies back when I ran a printing press all the time . I use them now when I am out just shooting  (have to with the BOSS system] but where it get;s me is that I can't wear them while hunting and that is where I am getting my hearing damaged  now .

If you're shooting that rifle enough while actually hunting to cause serious hearing damage, you either need to work on your accuracy or open a market to sell all the meat you must be stockpiling :)

Seriously, what are you hunting that requires you to shoot that much?  I'm curious.  The few times I went hunting I expended maybe 3 rounds each time on actual game.  The rest of the rounds expended were for fun/practice, with hearing protection in place.
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« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2015, 12:23:57 PM »
If you're shooting that rifle enough while actually hunting to cause serious hearing damage, you either need to work on your accuracy or open a market to sell all the meat you must be stockpiling :)

Seriously, what are you hunting that requires you to shoot that much?  I'm curious.  The few times I went hunting I expended maybe 3 rounds each time on actual game.  The rest of the rounds expended were for fun/practice, with hearing protection in place.

Just a guess - he is shooting at white tails that are running from a pack of Walker hounds.
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« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2015, 12:35:46 PM »
Just a guess - he is shooting at white tails that are running from a pack of Walker hounds.
Right on the money ammo . I had a belt made back when I first got the gun that well hold two boxes and one mag and have been known to shoot it empty in a day .
EDIT: There is a lot of poor people down here in Mississippi and we give most of the deer to them . We killed way more than we needed .
WIsh I had a video camera back them . I have killed 2 deer running with one shot and have done this twice . Freaked me out , look like the deer split in half and another feel out , lol .
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« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2015, 12:38:07 PM »
you might need some of those reloads you thinkin of going over to Mid-East.......just a thought
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« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2015, 12:39:40 PM »
Roger that.  I was in a club in Eastern NC (Hyde County) and that was the way we hunted 90% of the time.  It's exciting when you hear the dogs come in to ear shot.  Love that sound.  I was the ONLY guy hunting with a bolt action ... LOL
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« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2015, 12:46:37 PM »
Roger that.  I was in a club in Eastern NC (Hyde County) and that was the way we hunted 90% of the time.  It's exciting when you hear the dogs come in to ear shot.  Love that sound.  I was the ONLY guy hunting with a bolt action ... LOL
Shoot ammo , that's what my long time hunting buddy is shooting a bolt action but he got it when I got mine 40 years ago and he can shoot that thing just as fast as I can my BAR . Both are 270 cal .

DaCoon , I was wondering about that . The three guy's that well be going are old friends that have hunted with me all there life and are really good shots . I was wondering if we can carry our own gun's . I rather shoot my BAR that the AK .
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