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Offline FBKampfer

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Re: A perked Soviet Fighter
« Reply #30 on: March 11, 2015, 06:24:10 PM »
KTD doesn't show the altitude where an aircraft kills or is killed at; HTC performance data doesn't show how an aircraft performs in anything except top speed and climb rate. Neither show anything related to an aircraft being an excellent low-altitude fighter.

Yet again, the quoted data is completely irrelevant to what's being discussed.

The F4U-4, LA-7, Tempest, and K4 completely outperform the D9 on the deck, and the G-14 matches it very closely. That puts the D9 at #5 or #6 on pure performance alone, without factoring in typical MA scenarios that can put it at a further disadvantage. I'm not in any way claiming it's helpless, I'm simply countering - factually - that it is in no way a "top competitor" to the LA-7 in performance whatsoever at the altitudes being discussed.

What's your in-game name, and how long have you been playing?

Performance is typically only used to refer to engine-related performance such as top speed, climb, and acceleration. For all, the D9 is only a hair behind the La-7, the fastest free fighter, and if I recall, the 4th best climbing propeller-driven aircraft in the game.

I take it you are using it to refer to total capacity to perform it's function, including less easily quantified metrics?

And I suppose I should have expressly stated that I was referring to its performance relative to non-perk aircraft.

In any case, I posit that turn radius and rate of turn are less important in the MA. Not to say that they are unimportant, only that pure performance matters most. For this reason the D9 is a dominant aircraft in the main arena, even though it's turning is abysmal.

Again, this is not to say it is better or equal to the La-7; in fact I personally hate the D9. I am simply saying that it's performance is such that it dominates all but a handful of aircraft, and thus would be competitive with, if not dominant to, those other aircraft.

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Re: A perked Soviet Fighter
« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2015, 06:46:16 PM »
Who cares about on the deck?

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Re: A perked Soviet Fighter
« Reply #32 on: March 13, 2015, 08:38:59 PM »
The only way the La-7 should avoid being perked would be to get rid of that rare 3-cannon version we have, and replace it with the regular 2-cannon one. it would still be a low-ENY plane because of its general performance.

A very small percentage had it.

I almost never see a radiator damage on it ( much like the 51), the 109s  and 190Dget a radiator damage very easy compared.


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Re: A perked Soviet Fighter
« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2015, 01:12:04 AM »
La-7 has a radial engine.  It shouldn't have a radiator.  The 51, 109s and 190D-9 all have liquid cooled engines.
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Re: A perked Soviet Fighter
« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2015, 01:04:53 PM »
For the record... I am more scared of a la-5 than a 7...

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Re: A perked Soviet Fighter
« Reply #35 on: March 15, 2015, 12:45:51 AM »
For the record... I am more scared of a la-5 than a 7...
True, but that is because of the player in it more than the plane. La7s on the other hand are flown by noobs and not-so-good player, with exception of a handful of very good yet insecure players.
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Re: A perked Soviet Fighter
« Reply #36 on: March 15, 2015, 01:39:37 AM »
Dunno.  The most lopsided series of kills I ever had in the Mossie was against a guy who kept coming back in an La-5FN.  Killed him four times before I landed and went elsewhere as I didn't want to club the baby seal anymore.  Meeting at about 10k, average fight duration from entering guns range, less than 5 seconds, no HOs.  No idea why a new player had been taking up La-5FN's repeatedly.
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Re: A perked Soviet Fighter
« Reply #37 on: March 16, 2015, 09:55:15 AM »
The answer would be to split the La7 into 2 & 3 cannon variants and put a small perk on the 3 cannon.

as discussed in 2006

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?topic=177180.30

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