(better) Questions for HiTech

[FBKampfer]

1) is there any chance we're getting the archaic UI updated?

Let's be honest; it's god awful by 2015 standards. Even after having used it for years, I just can't get used to it.

That is all.

[Mister Fork]

If you're going to ask for something to be updated, what do you want it to look like? Cause complaining it looks 'god awful' and not giving an example or your idea on what a good interface looks like falls into this category...

[MrKrabs]

1) is there any chance we're getting the archaic UI updated?

Let's be honest; it's god awful by 2015 standards. Even after having used it for years, I just can't get used to it.

That is all.

This is a good way to get a one-way ticket to PNG-land...

[Kruel]

Huh? Can't make suggestions or criticize the game?

[bustr]

Kruel I suspect you enjoy being anonymous like many in the idioetsphere while not using your real name and personal contact info. So you can effectively get away with dropping a duce in anyone's virtual kitchen and get away with it. For example like our OP. Criticism and suggestions have no emotional feedback at face value if they are simply to help the target if your goal isn't simply helping the target. Dropping a stealth duce in the delivery feeds the ego and opens the door for others to try and join in. Fortunately the OP has no mob appeal in this forum to gin up an impromptu lynching of Hitech over the idiocy he chose to opine upon.

1) is there any chance we're getting the archaic UI updated?

"Archaic" is being snide while hiding behind the word itself to communicate ones negative feelings towards the object's creator for being regressive rather than 2015 progressive. 

Let's be honest; it's god awful by 2015 standards. Even after having used it for years, I just can't get used to it.

An appeal to the peanut gallery to deflect responsibility for ones words while snidely trying to validate the insult. Possibly starting a mob joining in to feed the need to publicly diss Hitech.

That is all.

[Kruel]

Kruel I suspect you enjoy being anonymous like many in the idioetsphere while not using your real name and personal contact info. So you can effectively get away with dropping a duce in anyone's virtual kitchen and get away with it. For example like our OP. Criticism and suggestions have no emotional feedback at face value if they are simply to help the target if your goal isn't simply helping the target. Dropping a stealth duce in the delivery feeds the ego and opens the door for others to try and join in. Fortunately the OP has no mob appeal in this forum to gin up an impromptu lynching of Hitech over the idiocy he chose to opine upon.

Understood so what you are saying is no one should say "I don't like this" and instead should say "I don't like this, here is a better idea?" Meh, I guess the latter is better but everyone is entitled to their opinion I suppose...

[Dragon Tamer]

It's not what was said, it was how it was said. Certain words carry certain emotions whether good or bad. The choice of words carries the emotion of your message.

Examples:

Homeless person/bum
Exotic dancer/stripper
Prostitute/Lady of the night

Most adjectives have a derogatory synonym to go with them. This is probably why the english language is so complex, because there are so many different ways to say the same thing, but not all of them are appropriate.

[mbailey]

 This is probably why the english language is so complex, because there are so many different ways to say the same thing, but not all of them are appropriate.

Good point

Then again some are just ignorant

[FBKampfer]

I meant no offense to the abilities of HTC's crew. I feel archaic is an apt word to use, potential negative connotation or no; it most accuracy describes the state of the UI, ergo I will use that word.

The dot command in particular is what makes the system feel old. A right-click drop down menu when interfacing with game ID's  would be much more contemporary.


Right click a base, see options specifically for that base, such as down time tables, given that that information is available to all, but knowledge of how to access it is not.

Just simple improvements to streamline where ever possible, and simplify the system for new users without need to memorize an expansive list of commands.

[JunkyII]

I meant no offense to the abilities of HTC's crew. I feel archaic is an apt word to use, potential negative connotation or no; it most accuracy describes the state of the UI, ergo I will use that word.

The dot command in particular is what makes the system feel old. A right-click drop down menu when interfacing with game ID's  would be much more contemporary.


Right click a base, see options specifically for that base, such as down time tables, given that that information is available to all, but knowledge of how to access it is not.

Just simple improvements to streamline where ever possible, and simplify the system for new users without need to memorize an expansive list of commands.

People not knowing the dot commands is out of laziness to not learn the system, the way to access it is posted somewhere...BBS and I thought I saw it in the wiki.

Understood so what you are saying is no one should say "I don't like this" and instead should say "I don't like this, here is a better idea?" Meh, I guess the latter is better but everyone is entitled to their opinion I suppose...

Bustr is absolutely right, like dumb privates in the military "This is dumb" says the PVT "Why is it dumb and how do you think it should have gone?"- says the NCO "I don't know it's just dumb" replies the PVT

A critique should always have a possible fix attached to it....or else it is just whining.

[Wiley]

People not knowing the dot commands is out of laziness to not learn the system, the way to access it is posted somewhere...BBS and I thought I saw it in the wiki.

Sure.  Now take a look at any Windows based computer.  What percentage of the tasks you do in a typical session require you to go to a command line?

Interfaces have changed drastically since 2000.  People want little clicky buttons and menus, not to have to remember a list of commands and codes for different objects.  Is it functional?  Yes.  Is it intuitive to anyone born since 1990?  Not so much.

Wiley.

[FBKampfer]

People just aren't as good at memorizing lists and facts now a days.  We've grown up with the collective knowledge of Western civilization at our finger tips. It simply hasn't been necessary or beneficial for us to develop such skills.

As a result, our brains strengthened and paired away different neural pathways than yours did. The result is we're better at multitasking. It's not a skill we can just learn, and it isn't from simple laziness.


Mutter about the world changing for the worse and the shortcomings of the new generations if you will, but do remember that the next century will be our century, dominated by our technology, to which we have adapted ourselves.

[JunkyII]

Sure.  Now take a look at any Windows based computer.  What percentage of the tasks you do in a typical session require you to go to a command line?

Interfaces have changed drastically since 2000.  People want little clicky buttons and menus, not to have to remember a list of commands and codes for different objects.  Is it functional?  Yes.  Is it intuitive to anyone born since 1990?  Not so much.

Wiley.

memorize? you can put that on a piece of paper by your keyboard. I agree that it is a bit longer but look at games like StarCraft 2, best players in the game have to memorize a ton of different hot keys in order to be good, and that's for instantaneous actions...generally speaking how often do you need to use those commands on a sortie?? Once to determine whether or not to hold bombs for VH or FH? Something like that?

I personally don't want it to be easier to learn what the exact down times are mainly because I think it will lead to more stale gameplay, "Oh that bases town was hit by a milk runner 20 minutes ago so it's a waste of time for us to even hit it if the town is going to pop in 20". I'm all about making things more streamline but to make all those times show when you right click for status just smells like stale gameplay to me.

[rvflyer]

Sure.  Now take a look at any Windows based computer.  What percentage of the tasks you do in a typical session require you to go to a command line?

Interfaces have changed drastically since 2000.  People want little clicky buttons and menus, not to have to remember a list of commands and codes for different objects.  Is it functional?  Yes.  Is it intuitive to anyone born since 1990?  Not so much.

Wiley.

Don't know how long you have been playing but it was not so long ago we didn't even have the . commands for down times etc. so be thankful for what we have.  Just want to add I printed out the . commands and have them handy to use, pretty soon you learn what they are and only takes a second to type them.

[rvflyer]

People just aren't as good at memorizing lists and facts now a days.  We've grown up with the collective knowledge of Western civilization at our finger tips. It simply hasn't been necessary or beneficial for us to develop such skills.

As a result, our brains strengthened and paired away different neural pathways than yours did. The result is we're better at multitasking. It's not a skill we can just learn, and it isn't from simple laziness.


Mutter about the world changing for the worse and the shortcomings of the new generations if you will, but do remember that the next century will be our century, dominated by our technology, to which we have adapted ourselves.

Yes it is called dumbing down.