Tried - FAI/AMA links so far - Model Fliers post 'em here!

[Voss]

I tried to visit the FAI (Federation Aeronautique Internationale) to get the list of manuevers, but as I feared everything is listed in the newer Aresti method as follows:

Advanced schedule

This is basically a cheat card, and what the pilot uses as a reminder for setting up his manuevers during a competition. It does not list the manuevers as you would like, however.

So, then I went to AMA HQ (Academy of Model Aeronautics) and looked for the manuever schedule for Advanced class (which I know requires the 'double Immelmann' manuever). Unfortunately, all they list are the latest rule changes for Masters class as of two years ago.  

Master's schedule

Anyway, here's a link to some great photos of Pattern birds from F3A. I'll keep looking for more info (I've written the AMA and FAI for links to more manuever schedules).
Pattern Ships

I've been doing this for twenty-five years, but even though I have the manuevers memorized, I still don't know a link for 'em. Sorry, but I haven't given up.

BTW, HT, if you have a current AMA handbook scan the pattern schedules and post 'em, would ya?  

[whirl]

cool dude- thanks

Tried

[whirl]

i ran across a page with well defined maneuvers.  wish i could remember where it was, was awhile back.

[Sky Viper]

You might try the boards over at  http://www.rconline.com

The have a sectoin titled Aerobatics, "3D and Pattern Flying."

I had kinda wondered where to find a list of the symbols as shown in the cards.
They are supposed to be the same as the international standards for real aerobatic flight.

By the way, am I wrong:  A double Immel is a half loop up, roll out level, and immediately half loop up again rolling level at the top?

I ask because I had emailed asking about a description I read from the 2000 judges book that described what I know to be a Split S.  Their reply was, "Well, that's not how we do it."
I don't remember what Org. it was, but it struck me odd.

Viper
AMA Member since 1999

[Voss]

Nope, but that's a common misconception. A double Immelmann is a half-loop with half-roll out, one second of straight-and-level flight followed by an outside half-loop and half-roll out, and finally one second of straight-and-level to exit. Orignially the K-factor was set at 3, but I think it was downgraded to a 2 about ten years ago.

I stick to the Masters schedule, or FAI, so I haven't been asked to do a double-Immelmann for about fifteen years.  

BTW, the greatest thrill I have ever experienced is doing these same manuevers with a helicopter. Way cool!