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Offline bangsbox

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crusader III aa MK1 please
« on: March 25, 2015, 12:45:33 PM »
40mm bofors which would out range the osti for mobile anti-bomb**** defense. The bofors has a better trajectory and hitting power too so its wouldnt take 3-4 hits to knock out a lanc-skuka. currently with the about 2.7k range of the osti 37mm gun: a set of lanc-stukas will easily be able to drop ords from at least one/two planes because of closing speed, osti 2.7k range and the poor ballistics of the 37mm gun. I think adding the crusader III will enable multiple variants to be add like our current early panzer while giving AH some "true" British armour.     
: preferably with this sweet new 40mm round by bofors. Able to fire from any 40mm bofors gun the ad says!   
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Re: crusader III aa MK1 please
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2015, 02:44:44 PM »
ANYTHING in the Crusader line please. :D
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Re: crusader III aa MK1 please
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2015, 03:02:24 PM »
crusader is just so sweet and im sure nimrod nimrods would love it
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Re: crusader III aa MK1 please
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2015, 03:05:31 PM »
So how fast can this thing turn on it's tracks while trying to snap shoot a jabo running down the runway?

However, those Crusader III, AA Mk I used in NW Europe from D-day on did not have the turret, but a 40 mm Bofors gun mounted directly on the hull top with its standard shield.
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Re: crusader III aa MK1 please
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2015, 03:06:26 PM »
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Re: crusader III aa MK1 please
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2015, 03:25:50 PM »
So how fast can this thing turn on it's tracks while trying to snap shoot a jabo running down the runway?

However, those Crusader III, AA Mk I used in NW Europe from D-day on did not have the turret, but a 40 mm Bofors gun mounted directly on the hull top with its standard shield.

quoting Wikipedia I see Mr. bustr... I wouldnt mind one bit having no turret. I really just want a 40mm bofors aa tank to hit pesky lanc-stukas from over 4k.

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Re: crusader III aa MK1 please
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2015, 04:23:44 PM »
The manned 37mm Flak 36 will reach 4.7k with a huge dispersion circle. The mobile osti 37mm platform should reach the same range based on the manuals but, Hitech has limited it to 2.7k. Why do you believe he will not limit the 40mm on an anti aircraft platform, instead allow it to shoot father than the osti? The 20mm Flak 38 mounted in the wirbel per the manuals can reach farther than it's game range, Hitech limited it to 1.7k.

So why did Hitech limit the mobile platforms when the specs for them shows the following:

Wirblewind max vertical range with 6sec self-destruct: 2400yd --- game range 1700yd
Ostwind    max vertical range with 13sec self-destruct: 4590yd ---game range 2700yd

40mm Bofors max vertical range: 4155yd ---  British self destruct fuse 3000-3500yds. --- projected game range limit going by what Hitech did to the german mobile platforms - ??

And this gun platform's turret is fixed versus the osti's turret is not. So how fast can you make the base mobile carriage turn on it's tracks to lead something?

The manned 37mm and auto ack 20mm shoot to about max ranges as fixed base defense. Past about 1500yd, all of these light AA that we can man, have horrible dispersion, and very few of us really account well for time to target, drop, and dispersion. I can hit bomber boxes regularly to 2500yd with the 37mm because they are so big. 2700-4000, a few times a month by accident. Dispersion and time to target are against you past 2500.
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Re: crusader III aa MK1 please
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2015, 05:49:52 PM »
The bofors has a higher muzzle velocity so bullet drop and time to target would be much better compared to osti. Also the 40mm on ships can just about go if not go to 5k. So if nerfed by HiTech, we would probably see around 3.7-4k range.
I can get hits at 2.5k on a box of buffs too but there is no way I'm killing them before they carpet bomb me of fellow GVs. I'm hoping a GV based on the bofors would curtail this a bit.

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Re: crusader III aa MK1 please
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2015, 06:13:33 PM »
37mm HE AA round 2690fps weight of round 1.6 lb
40mm HE AA round 2720fps weight of round 1.9 lb

In the game you will really not see much of a difference.
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Re: crusader III aa MK1 please
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2015, 06:16:52 PM »
Was just going to post that Bustr. It might be moderately easier to actually shoot, but you won't actually notice it, because almost everyone's aim sucks something awful at the ranges you're hoping to see results at.
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Re: crusader III aa MK1 please
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2015, 01:10:33 AM »
37mm HE AA round 2690fps weight of round 1.6 lb
40mm HE AA round 2720fps weight of round 1.9 lb

In the game you will really not see much of a difference.

I feel like cv bofors have a much bigger disparity in game.

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Re: crusader III aa MK1 please
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2015, 05:38:56 AM »
Seems to me the real wish should be about getting the self destruct fuse time for the mobile flak set to the same time as the fixed flak positions.

A wirbel with a 2400 yard range would be destabilizing to game play.
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