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« Reply #45 on: March 29, 2015, 08:29:15 PM »
Thing I remember about threads was that it was made against the backdrop of discussions re: nuclear war being winnable, the whole "with enough shovels" thing. I recall at the time there was considerable bewilderment about that statement - was it actually made?
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« Reply #46 on: March 29, 2015, 09:37:19 PM »
May we never be put in a position to find out if nuclear war (on any scale) is 'survivable' or not (though i must admit that I've been of the opinion that every day is borrowed time since Pandora's box opened). Oh, and the wall coming down in Berlin never evoked a sigh of relief in me. Bless my conflicted soul.

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« Reply #47 on: March 29, 2015, 09:38:07 PM »
Thing I remember about threads was that it was made against the backdrop of discussions re: nuclear war being winnable, the whole "with enough shovels" thing. I recall at the time there was considerable bewilderment about that statement - was it actually made?


Absolutely!  While western societies generally considered that nuclear war would be the end of all life, the Bolsheviks planned on how to survive it and dominate the subsequent situation.  So..we decided we had to do the same.  The discussions took on a surreal quality, but there's no doubt they occurred.  Heck, I remember arguing how to win in toe-to-toe nuclear combat with the Russkies. 

Fortunately, there was enough doubt, that Mutually Assured Destruction ultimately prevailed as a deterrent.

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« Reply #48 on: March 29, 2015, 10:08:17 PM »
I remember watching this video, China's first nuke; no big deal;   but..... this poor horses wearing gas mask blew my mind ,, poor 100% vegetarian animals dragged by stupid  diabolic possessed  human minds along our sick history through slaughter and wars, from stone to ...........atomic age; :rolleyes: :( :furious  :(



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« Reply #49 on: March 29, 2015, 10:17:23 PM »
I remember watching this video, China's first nuke; no big deal;   but..... this poor horses wearing gas mask blew my mind ,, poor 100% vegetarian animals dragged by stupid  diabolic possessed  human minds along our sick history through slaughter and wars, from stone to ...........atomic age; :rolleyes: :( :furious  :(




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« Reply #50 on: March 29, 2015, 10:49:43 PM »
:O  WTF!
why wtf? it looks more or less like American atom bomb videos do, just with some extra panache and cavalry

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« Reply #51 on: March 29, 2015, 11:29:20 PM »
I remember watching this video, China's first nuke; no big deal;   but..... this poor horses wearing gas mask blew my mind ,, poor 100% vegetarian animals dragged by stupid  diabolic possessed  human minds along our sick history through slaughter and wars, from stone to ...........atomic age; :rolleyes: :( :furious  :(




I highly recommend the documentary this clip was taken from, "Trinity and Beyond: the Atomic Bomb Story"
Here's another clip, this one about the Castle Bravo test, America's largest thermonuclear device (15 Megatons)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge865CR9pN8
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« Reply #52 on: March 30, 2015, 12:11:14 AM »
Secrets of the dead did an episode about the history of the hydrogen bomb. Castle bravo, tzar bomb and all that.

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/the-world%E2%80%99s-biggest-bomb-watch-the-full-episode/863/

PBS has also done a doc on the manhattan project and another one on Eppenheimer and I think they did one on the Nazi heavy water plant in Norway. They've done at least one on soviet nuclear subs, and they did one on admiral Rickover.

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« Reply #53 on: March 30, 2015, 07:33:12 AM »
why wtf? it looks more or less like American atom bomb videos do, just with some extra panache and cavalry


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« Reply #54 on: March 30, 2015, 08:47:46 AM »

Absolutely!  While western societies generally considered that nuclear war would be the end of all life, the Bolsheviks planned on how to survive it and dominate the subsequent situation.  So..we decided we had to do the same.  The discussions took on a surreal quality, but there's no doubt they occurred.  Heck, I remember arguing how to win in toe-to-toe nuclear combat with the Russkies. 

Fortunately, there was enough doubt, that Mutually Assured Destruction ultimately prevailed as a deterrent.

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« Reply #55 on: March 31, 2015, 01:30:28 PM »
SysError truly opened my eyes with Tom Lehrer. Can't thank you enough SysError! Been listening his songs non-stop since I discovered them. Stupid me for not stumbling into them sooner!

Couple other hilarious ones regarding the subject at hand:

Who's next
https://youtu.be/oRLON3ddZIw

Wernher von Braun
https://youtu.be/TjDEsGZLbio
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« Reply #56 on: March 31, 2015, 01:40:06 PM »
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« Reply #57 on: March 31, 2015, 02:46:43 PM »
SysError truly opened my eyes with Tom Lehrer. Can't thank you enough SysError! Been listening his songs non-stop since I discovered them. Stupid me for not stumbling into them sooner!

Couple other hilarious ones regarding the subject at hand:

Who's next
https://youtu.be/oRLON3ddZIw

Wernher von Braun
https://youtu.be/TjDEsGZLbio


He is my favorite satirist from the 1950s/60s.  While a lot of songs were written before the 60s, I usually like the 60s  renditions better.

Here is another song I was going to post, but I didn't thinking that it could over kill.  Maybe not.  Here you go:

So Long, Mom (A Song for World War III)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pklr0UD9eSo
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« Reply #58 on: March 31, 2015, 05:57:24 PM »

He is my favorite satirist from the 1950s/60s.  While a lot of songs were written before the 60s, I usually like the 60s  renditions better.

Here is another song I was going to post, but I didn't thinking that it could over kill.  Maybe not.  Here you go:

So Long, Mom (A Song for World War III)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pklr0UD9eSo

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« Reply #59 on: March 31, 2015, 06:00:56 PM »
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