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Offline ML52

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A/c performance
« on: April 07, 2015, 04:46:02 PM »
I'm about 3/4 of the way through Thunderbolt by Robert S Johnson and it raised a question for me. First this isn't a complaint but a question. What factors go into the performance of the planes here in Aces High and what are left out?

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Re: A/c performance
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2015, 04:48:42 PM »
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Re: A/c performance
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2015, 01:38:39 AM »
Let me clarify my question. In the book Johnson claims that when the jug was fitted with the paddle blade prop he was able to climb with or faster than a spit 9b. Do we have the paddle blade on the D40, M, or N?

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Re: A/c performance
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2015, 03:52:58 AM »
The only jug in the game with toothpick blades is the D11. The paddle blade prop is the reason for the better climb of the D25/40 over the D11, inspire of them being slightly heavier.

You also have to remember that Johnson's jug was highly over-boosted and probably had performance closer to our M than the D40.
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Re: A/c performance
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2015, 12:44:31 PM »
Spit 9b?
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Re: A/c performance
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2015, 12:55:49 PM »
More rarely seen are the suffixes A and B. These have caused some confusion, as these letters in earlier Spitfire marks define eight-gun and two drum-fed cannon and four machine gun armament configurations, respectively. It would seem that the designations IXA / IXB were used ad-hoc by the RAF units during the early part of the Mk. IX’s operational career, to distinguish the low-altitude-optimized Merlin 66-equipped LF IX (called Mk. IX B) from the initial Merlin 61/63/63a-equipped F IX (called Mk. IX A). These designations are sometimes seen in pilot’s log books, squadron Operational Record Books, etc.

http://spitfiresite.com/2010/04/spitfire-mk-ix-xi-and-xvi-variants-much-varied.html
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Re: A/c performance
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2015, 01:08:42 PM »
Ok. Thanks :)
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Re: A/c performance
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2015, 03:26:58 PM »
Thanks for the info.  :salute

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Re: A/c performance
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2015, 04:01:22 AM »
didnt the IX have the option to have .50s and 20mm originally in the game? and historiclly?
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Re: A/c performance
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2015, 04:09:30 AM »
didnt the IX have the option to have .50s and 20mm originally in the game? and historiclly?
Yes and no.

The e wing introduced in 1944 has a 20mm cannon and a .50 caliber machine gun in each wing.  The universal wing introduced in 1941 (IIRC) could take four .303s in each wing, or two .303s and one Hispano Mk II in each wing or two Hispano Mk IIs in each wing.  In practice the universal wing always carried two .303s and one Hispano Mk II in each wing.  In AH the Spitfire Mk VIII, Spitfire Mk IX and Seafire Mk II have universal wings and the the Spitfire Mk XIV and Spitfire Mk XVI have e wings.  The Spitfire Mk I has an a wing and the Spitfire Mk V has a b wing.

The Spitfire Mk IX in AH has always been a Merlin 61 version, the earliest Mk IX introduced in mid 1942 and no Merlin 61 Spitfire IX ever had the e wing so when the Spitfires were redone and additional versions added the e wing options (.50s, 250lb bombs and rockets) were removed from the Mk IX to make it more accurate.
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Re: A/c performance
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2015, 04:42:03 AM »
ok I remembered when it had the option. The 9 use to be my favorite cause of the .50s. but if the 9s had the merlin63(?) could we have an option for the e wing and the .50s again? and how big of a difference were the flight characteristics between the Merlin 61s and 63(?) spitty 9s?
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Re: A/c performance
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2015, 04:57:34 AM »
ok I remembered when it had the option. The 9 use to be my favorite cause of the .50s. but if the 9s had the merlin63(?) could we have an option for the e wing and the .50s again? and how big of a difference were the flight characteristics between the Merlin 61s and 63(?) spitty 9s?
I don't think Merlin 63 Mk IXs had the e wing either.  Merlin 66 and 70 Mk IXs could have either the universal or e wing.  The Spitfire LF.Mk VIII and Spitfire Mk LF.Mk IXe both have the Merlin 66 in AH, though our LF.Mk IX is labeled as a Mk XVI.  The full throttle height indicates it has a Merlin 66 instead of a Merlin 266 which means it is actually an LF.Mk IXe rather than a Mk XVI.  The only difference between the two was the Rolls Royce made Merlin 66 vs the Packard made Merlin 266.  The Merlin 266's full throttle height is about 1000ft higher than the Merlin 66's, but the Mk VIII and Mk XVI in AH have the same full throttle height, meaning both have Merlin 66s.
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Re: A/c performance
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2015, 05:01:25 AM »
well witch ever had the E wing i want lol too confusing but i want .50s in my 9er :( :bhead
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Re: A/c performance
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2015, 10:32:02 AM »
well witch ever had the E wing i want lol too confusing but i want .50s in my 9er :( :bhead
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Re: A/c performance
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2015, 01:20:41 PM »
I know the answer to this is burn the fuel down on a spit8 and it will become this.

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