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Offline pipz

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Re: Interesting debate
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2015, 11:30:57 PM »
Quote from: Muzzy on April 11, 2015, 09:23:59 PM
The actor? No. He's Canadian and pretty much trained to be an actor and a writer in his youth.

Of course he is Canadian!  :old:

Oh BTW
Iceman...Only cause he played Doc Holiday later on.......
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Re: Interesting debate
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2015, 12:09:11 AM »
Quote from: Zimme83 on April 11, 2015, 11:04:06 PM
saw a documentary once about a guy that stole a F-16 and went to rescue his dad from an evil dictator. He is the best...

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Re: Interesting debate
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2015, 02:08:09 AM »
Quote from: SPKmes on April 07, 2015, 10:34:06 PM
Well Maverick and his I am ways caused cougar to meltdown and killed his navigator.... also he broke many a rule and claimed victory even though the rules were not followed so he loses.... Iceman was a dick so he loses. Meg Ryan is hot so she wins all


the rule about 10,000 feet being the hard deck?  The whole engagement was below that.



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Re: Interesting debate
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2015, 10:59:26 AM »
Quote from: Nefarious on April 11, 2015, 09:35:58 PM
Jake Grafton and Cole Virgil Cole.

Grafton was a pilot.  Cole was a BN. 
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Re: Interesting debate
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2015, 11:20:22 AM »
Obviously Iceman. In the real fight at the end of the movie he was engaging five cons and held his own. Even when one of his engines was shot out he still kept control of that Tomcat and survived allowing Maverick to come in and cherry pick the cons one by one. Also he didn't auger his ride even once.
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Re: Interesting debate
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2015, 11:28:55 AM »
Quote from: SPKmes on April 07, 2015, 10:34:06 PM
Well Maverick and his I am ways caused cougar to meltdown and killed his navigator.... also he broke many a rule and claimed victory even though the rules were not followed so he loses.... Iceman was a dick so he loses. Meg Ryan is hot so she wins all

Meg Ryan?
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Re: Interesting debate
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2015, 11:29:18 AM »
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Re: Interesting debate
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2015, 11:31:15 AM »
Quote from: PR3D4TOR on April 12, 2015, 11:20:22 AM
Obviously Iceman. In the real fight at the end of the movie he was engaging five cons and held his own. Even when one of his engines was shot out he still kept control of that Tomcat and survived allowing Maverick to come in and cherry pick the cons one by one. Also he didn't auger his ride even once.

And if any one party was culpable for the accident that killed Goose, it was Iceman: He refused to back off and allow Maverick to take the shot even though Maverick had the position and he didn't. AND it was his direction of break that caused Maverick to fly through his jet wash. Maverick was doing exactly what he was supposed to do in the moments leading up to the accident.
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Re: Interesting debate
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2015, 11:37:54 AM »
Quote from: Saxman on April 12, 2015, 11:31:15 AM
And if any one party was culpable for the accident that killed Goose, it was Iceman: He refused to back off and allow Maverick to take the shot even though Maverick had the position and he didn't. AND it was his direction of break that caused Maverick to fly through his jet wash. Maverick was doing exactly what he was supposed to do in the moments leading up to the accident.

So did Iceman ever get called in for investigation after Goose's death, or did they just do Maverick in the whole court-martial scene?
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Re: Interesting debate
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2015, 11:44:52 AM »
Quote from: craz07 on April 10, 2015, 09:59:55 AM
long live goooose his career was stalled no pun intended by maverick
Goose would have survived had he of followed procedures, which I've heard that when in a flat spin, it is procedure to jettison the canopy before ejecting.

Goose wouldn't have hit the canopy had he of jettisoned it before ejection.
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Re: Interesting debate
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2015, 11:57:56 AM »
Quote from: Phoenix3107 on April 12, 2015, 11:37:54 AM
So did Iceman ever get called in for investigation after Goose's death, or did they just do Maverick in the whole court-martial scene?

They only showed Maverick, probably just for time. I'd imagine a real investigation would have called on every member of the aircrew from every aircraft involved in the flight, the crew of the rescue chopper, and the guys observing from the tower.
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Re: Interesting debate
« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2015, 12:02:13 PM »
Yet despite the accident Iceman graduated top of the class at NAS Miramar and was clearly Maverick's superior later as well.
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Re: Interesting debate
« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2015, 12:08:58 PM »
The dogfight scene with Iceman/Maverick vs. 6 MiG's.
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Re: Interesting debate
« Reply #28 on: April 12, 2015, 12:13:13 PM »
Quote from: Phoenix3107 on April 12, 2015, 12:08:58 PM
The dogfight scene with Iceman/Maverick vs. 6 MiG's.

Meaning?
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Re: Interesting debate
« Reply #29 on: April 12, 2015, 12:21:49 PM »
Quote from: PR3D4TOR on April 12, 2015, 12:02:13 PM
Yet despite the accident Iceman graduated top of the class at NAS Miramar and was clearly Maverick's superior later as well.

If you ignore Maverick's Heroic BSOD affecting his rank.
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