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[glzsqd]

Is the Pentium a Dual core? Whats its Clock speed?


I have an i3 clocked out at 3.4 running on my machine as of now(MB is capable of going up to the i7) I see FPS drops when i have all the Eye candy turned up.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Stock clock speed is 3.2Ghz but it goes easy to 4.5Ghz and with a bit of push even 4.7Ghz.

The best thing is, you can oc it to 4.5Ghz without using anything but the stock cooler that comes with it.

http://www.toptengamer.com/top-300-gaming-pc-build/

[mikev]

here is the reply from the local computer builder . i gave him an estimate of $1100.00  he did alright except im sure you will see a few areas of improvement.


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[morfiend]

here is the reply from the local computer builder . i gave him an estimate of $1100.00  he did alright except im sure you will see a few areas of improvement.


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  There's a huge difference between the 960 and the 980 or even 970!


  I wonder if the lenovo case will even hold a 970 or 980?


   

[glzsqd]

I have a 960 inside a lenovo desktop(ts140 server)
My bottle neck seems the be the i3 processor that came with the machine. Will probably upgrade to the i7 4770 at some point.

But my build ended up costing me closer to $600, so far atleast

[Bizman]

Your local builder apparently either doesn't know where to buy or he wants to get paid big time. Lenovo says the K450e is $549 with a coupon code they provide. The extra components cost roughly $390, making a total of $939 plus the 8 Gb of RAM and the original power supply, together worth something closer to $50 than $100. Building a computer and installing the OS and drivers usually costs about $100 to $150 when you buy the components.

Out of curiosity I calculated a similar build at a major Finnish web and retail shop including building and OS installing. The total was roughly the same as your local builder gave, with the noticeable difference that we have 24% VAT included.

Building basically the same from scratch without any compromised brand stuff:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/nbh9Q7
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/nbh9Q7/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($178.89 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A (NFC Express Edition) ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($120.75 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate SV35.5 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($58.11 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card  ($199.00 @ NCIX US)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case  ($21.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer  ($12.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer  ($12.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($133.79 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard  ($6.99 @ NCIX US)
Mouse: Microsoft JUD-00001 Wired Optical Mouse  ($5.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $876.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-15 15:14 EDT-0400

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Your local builder apparently either doesn't know where to buy or he wants to get paid big time. Lenovo says the K450e is $549 with a coupon code they provide. The extra components cost roughly $390, making a total of $939 plus the 8 Gb of RAM and the original power supply, together worth something closer to $50 than $100. Building a computer and installing the OS and drivers usually costs about $100 to $150 when you buy the components.

Out of curiosity I calculated a similar build at a major Finnish web and retail shop including building and OS installing. The total was roughly the same as your local builder gave, with the noticeable difference that we have 24% VAT included.

Building basically the same from scratch without any compromised brand stuff:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/nbh9Q7
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/nbh9Q7/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($178.89 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A (NFC Express Edition) ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($120.75 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate SV35.5 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($58.11 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card  ($199.00 @ NCIX US)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case  ($21.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer  ($12.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer  ($12.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($133.79 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard  ($6.99 @ NCIX US)
Mouse: Microsoft JUD-00001 Wired Optical Mouse  ($5.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $876.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-15 15:14 EDT-0400

He can upgrade the GPU to a GTX980 with the money you just saved him Bizman!

[mikev]

 well i sure appreciate all the advice so far. i am kinda glad now my old computer is up and running again this gives me time to plan the next computer rather then hurry up so i can get back to playing.  as of now we are using AH2 but what happens when AH3 comes out? what are we going to need then? what  kind of system are we going to need to handle all them graphics we see in the pics? im sure we can turn off the graphic setting like we do now but what if we want them on with max fps what are we going to need. i would hate to build a system now and find out later i need upgrades . these are the questions that need answers before i spend a penny.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

I have a 960 inside a lenovo desktop(ts140 server)
My bottle neck seems the be the i3 processor that came with the machine. Will probably upgrade to the i7 4770 at some point.

But my build ended up costing me closer to $600, so far atleast

What makes you think your bottleneck is the i3? Gaming CPU reviews have pointed that you gain maybe 5% increase for triple the price if you switch from i3 to i7. It makes no sense. If your i3 is a low model you'll get much bigger gains by getting another i3 with a higher clock speed or a Pentium G3258. If your motherboard supports overclocking, then do that free of cost as the first step.

Keep in mind that the 960 is a budget card, it's not going to be screaming fast no matter what CPU you use.

[Bizman]

well i sure appreciate all the advice so far. i am kinda glad now my old computer is up and running again this gives me time to plan the next computer rather then hurry up so i can get back to playing.  as of now we are using AH2 but what happens when AH3 comes out? what are we going to need then? what  kind of system are we going to need to handle all them graphics we see in the pics? im sure we can turn off the graphic setting like we do now but what if we want them on with max fps what are we going to need. i would hate to build a system now and find out later i need upgrades . these are the questions that need answers before i spend a penny.

The best advice I can give at this situation is to use your old computer until AH3 has been released and tested by all users. Before that everything is just educated guessing.

Should you really need to get a new computer before that, choose the processor capable to run the current game with full details and get the best video card you can afford. As has been said the new version will be GPU dependent while this one relies on CPU. Thus a decent processor with a high end video card is better than a killer processor with mediocre graphics.

[glzsqd]

What makes you think your bottleneck is the i3? Gaming CPU reviews have pointed that you gain maybe 5% increase for triple the price if you switch from i3 to i7. It makes no sense. If your i3 is a low model you'll get much bigger gains by getting another i3 with a higher clock speed or a Pentium G3258. If your motherboard supports overclocking, then do that free of cost as the first step.

Keep in mind that the 960 is a budget card, it's not going to be screaming fast no matter what CPU you use.

I wouldn't upgrade to an i7 for gaming.My setup is nearly perfect for what I do now(with the expection of AH not running smoothly with all the eyecandy turned on), but It would be useful for other applications that I would want to explore in the future.

[guncrasher]

here is the reply from the local computer builder . i gave him an estimate of $1100.00  he did alright except im sure you will see a few areas of improvement.


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he's ripping you off.  he's mark up is way more than what it should be.


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