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Offline Muzzy

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This is why altitude is hard to figure out.
« on: April 17, 2015, 11:16:20 PM »
« Last Edit: April 18, 2015, 01:10:29 AM by Muzzy »
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Re: This should be self-explanatory
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2015, 11:18:52 PM »
I reviewed my film,  no bombers i recorded A125 area were over 23.9K. Whats you're film show?

- i wil post my film screens tomorrow.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2015, 11:20:59 PM by Nefarious »
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Re: This should be self-explanatory
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2015, 11:22:15 PM »


Here's a better resolution. They were at almost 27k. I can try to email the clip to the moderators if necessary.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2015, 11:24:44 PM by Muzzy »
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Re: This should be self-explanatory
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2015, 11:25:16 PM »
I'm just saying,  i intercepted this attack too.  I reviewed my film and all were under 23.9K.
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Quote from: 100hooch on July 27, 2014, 02:44:19 AM
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Re: This should be self-explanatory
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2015, 11:49:55 PM »
I was first to spot the B17s.. all were under 24k..  according to my film, anyway.

the bazillion P47s and P38s, however...     :eek:
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Re: This should be self-explanatory
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2015, 12:01:08 AM »
If that was us, we were at 23.9K in frame 1.  The film will show you the altitude of all of the planes in range.  You cant go off of your altimeter to gauge another plane's altitude.  Often times we attack formations of bombers and they are lower than we initially thought but don't see it until we are in the formations attacking.

If that is us, I have my film from that frame.  Let me know and I will send it in for review.  No biggie!   :cheers:

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Re: This should be self-explanatory
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2015, 12:06:15 AM »
Just looked at the logs.  That is my squad.  We were at 23.9K. 

Muzzy, if it will satisfy you, please shoot me your email in a PM and I will send you film so you can see our gauges.  No harm no foul.  Just a perception thing. 

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Re: This should be self-explanatory
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2015, 12:19:30 AM »
Always better to use ALT-R and view the film. If you need to send it in please do. Just PM us on the BBS and we will make arrangements.  :salute
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Re: This should be self-explanatory
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2015, 12:27:46 AM »
cc I rechecked. My mistake. It looked like you were higher but when I checked the film we blew through you at 24k. Apologies.
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Re: This should be self-explanatory
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2015, 12:33:01 AM »
No problemo.
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Re: This should be self-explanatory
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2015, 12:37:19 AM »
This is exactly why film is so important. The film records the data and shows you the exact altitudes, whereas a screenshot while you're flying cannot be a reliable source of proof.
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Re: This should be self-explanatory
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2015, 12:48:25 AM »
This has been going on ever since there has been Alt limits.

Your VIEW does account for the curve of the earth. So yes, it APPEARS that they are to high when spotted but then you focus in on your attack and you do not look at your alt when you start shooting.

I agree with above, film is important.  This should be part of FSO training   :uhoh

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Re: This should be self-explanatory
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2015, 01:10:09 AM »
Quote from: KCDitto on April 18, 2015, 12:48:25 AM
This has been going on ever since there has been Alt limits.

Your VIEW does account for the curve of the earth. So yes, it APPEARS that they are to high when spotted but then you focus in on your attack and you do not look at your alt when you start shooting.

I agree with above, film is important.  This should be part of FSO training   :uhoh

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They didn't mention this in orientation.  :D
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Re: This is why altitude is hard to figure out.
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2015, 08:30:10 AM »
We do the same thing when we are attacking buffs with alt limits.  Our VOX becomes cluttered with SAVE FILM!!!  They are too high!  And it seriously does look crazy high.  Curvature is a crazy thing!  LOL  I think we all missed that in orientation, Brother!

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Re: This is why altitude is hard to figure out.
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2015, 10:03:00 AM »
Ya, this has made me  :headscratch: more than once...

I could have sworn they were higher, but as I get closer, I realize they were below me.  It seems at a distance they appear higher than they really are. 

Of course, I try to get higher, then end up compressing on my attack run.  Adrenaline is a killer....  :x
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