B-29 Perks

[earl1937]

  I think the idea of lowering the perks required for flying the B-29 has some merit! I have plenty of perks, so I never have a problem with flying them when ever I like.
But, there are a lot of players in here who don't have a lot of bomber perks, so they never fly them.
My point is that if the perks are lowered, more people will fly them, therefore, I think it would promote more air to air fights, which this game is designed to have!
Not only the fights that it would promote, it would enhance "base taking" missions as well, again, promoting more fights, as it would require more defenders to ward off a flight of 29's.
Fire away guys!!!!

[Lusche]

I see where you come from and share your desire to see thm more used and to see more combat.

However, they would still carry a price tag so high I believe it would still drive people up to altitudes above 30k to protect their perk 'investment'. Not much combat there...
On the other hand, if you would put the perk price so low that nobody would care anymore you'd have some serious arena balance problem.

A dilemma 

[JVboob]

1 B29 30perks
3 B29 i dunno 200perks

If HTC can work it that way. a lone 29 is vulnerable and bombing from  alt with a single is doable but you gotta actually work at it.

Yesterday ET Popiseed and myself flew 29s to decent sucess damage wise and it was a blast but im limited on my buff perks

<S> 49Boob

[Volron]

I wouldn't mind seeing the perk price dropped, but as Lusche said, drop it too low and you would see too many B-29's.  What if they were to drop it by 25% (though no more than that)?  Lusche?

Or it could use JVboob's idea of having a single costing only half of the perks, but an entire formation costing what it costs now.


The thing to consider is that it is a fairly fast bomber with a great coverage and a TON of ammo and ords, which is why it's perked so high.


I am hoping with the upcoming update, that there are not only more targets to hit, but size increases accordingly.  No more only taking 3-4 sets to knock out a strat in one pass.  Some of the photo's I've seen show a few of them to be massive, and a little spread out.  What we have would be the employee parking lot for these places. lol  Right now there really isn't anything that warrants the 29's massive payload.  The previous strat setup did warrant it's inclusion (although minor), with the mega strat.  Of the targets in it, the Industrial Center was by far the largest strat I've seen in AH.  Only guys who have been here longer could tell me if any strats were bigger in the past.

[lyric1]

Really don't think a perk price in bombers in AHII is needed at all. No matter what aircraft you use the end result is the same in terms of how long something is down for regardless of what platform did the damage. The exception though would be the early war arena & Lancaster's in that it would take a perk fighter to intercept at altitude & with enough fire power to bring them down.

[ONTOS]

Leave it the way it is.

[FBKampfer]

Really don't think a perk price in bombers in AHII is needed at all. No matter what aircraft you use the end result is the same in terms of how long something is down for regardless of what platform did the damage. The exception though would be the early war arena & Lancaster's in that it would take a perk fighter to intercept at altitude & with enough fire power to bring them down.

Are you nuts? The B-29 does just about everything better than every other bomber. It's only real handicap is its maneuverability and difficulty of takeoff.

[Lusche]

Really don't think a perk price in bombers in AHII is needed at all. No matter what aircraft you use the end result is the same in terms of how long something is down for regardless of what platform did the damage.

By that logic we could also unperk the Tempest and the Me 262. After all, dead is dead no matter what shot you down...

Seriously, the B-29 is so much ahead of the competition in terms of firepower, speed and bombload that the perk status is aalmost a no brainer. A free B-29 would utterly dominate the bomber selection.

[Volron]

By that logic we could also unperk the Tempest and the Me 262. After all, dead is dead no matter what shot you down...

Seriously, the B-29 is so much ahead of the competition in terms of firepower, speed and bombload that the perk status is aalmost a no brainer. A free B-29 would utterly dominate the bomber selection.

It would be a bomber version of the F4U-1C thing I heard about.  Even I can see it;  Hands down you would RARELY see anything but B-29's as bomber choice if they were free.  Only time you'd even see anything else is for kicks really, like how some folks take the 111 or G4M1 out right now.  These are rare now, but in a free 29 arena? lol

[BuckShot]

It would be fun if in addition to Santa in his sleigh on Christmas, everything was unperked.

There would be lots of jets and 29s to kill!

[lyric1]

Are you nuts? The B-29 does just about everything better than every other bomber. It's only real handicap is its maneuverability and difficulty of takeoff.

Sure when you get it to 30k to 40k like most you see in game. Bring it down to 10k to 15k like it was used in Japan due to the fact any higher it could hit nothing. After all the Japanese in Zeros, KI-43's & other inferior fighters of that time were shooting them down.

[lyric1]

By that logic we could also unperk the Tempest and the Me 262. After all, dead is dead no matter what shot you down...

Seriously, the B-29 is so much ahead of the competition in terms of firepower, speed and bombload that the perk status is aalmost a no brainer. A free B-29 would utterly dominate the bomber selection.

There would be a huge influx no question of B-29's using my logic. As it stands now they hard to find & when you do they are at 40k. Zero perk price or a very low one will at least bring more of them into the game & people will be less inclined to be at non historic altitudes where hitting targets were simply not possible.

Again in terms of damage done in AHII 10 minutes later the hangers are back up. So what is the advantage of a specific bomber with a high perk price over any of the other heavy American bombers that cost nothing? If you have 10 formations of B-17s on a mission hitting an airfield & 10 formations of B-29's hitting a similar size field the end result is the same?
Base is shut down.

Personally I would like to see 10 sets of B-29s at 15k for a change. Have not seen that since the removal of the mega strat system.
Since that seems unlikely to return sadly multiple formations of B-29's will probably only will be used in scenarios for the most part.

[Karnak]

Opposing fighters would be far more likely to stop the B-17s than the B-29s.  That is the difference.

[Lusche]

Again in terms of damage done in AHII 10 minutes later the hangers are back up. So what is the advantage of a specific bomber with a high perk price over any of the other heavy American bombers that cost nothing? If you have 10 formations of B-17s on a mission hitting an airfield & 10 formations of B-29's hitting a similar size field the end result is the same?
Base is shut down.

The difference?

1. You don't need 10 formations.
A formation of B-29s is much more capable taking down stuff by the huge & more varied loadout than a formation of B-17. For example, with 8x2k can whiteflag a town, or kill all FHS on a  medium airfield twice or shut down 2 vehicle bases, with much more room for error in the drop.
2. It's tremendously more difficult to stop from doing this than a B-17 due to speed and armament, even at lower altitudes. 1000 rpg means you can simply spray away at the enemy fighters struggling to get into a attack position against your 330mph bomber.

An unperked B-29 would effectively replace the B-17, B-24 and Lancaster in game.


(By the way, I know you didn't mean it literally, but just for the record: loaded B-29 can't reach 40k in the game. Top end is at about 34k  )

[lyric1]

(By the way, I know you didn't mean it literally, but just for the record: loaded B-29 can't reach 40k in the game. Top end is at about 34k  )

Typically buy the time you get to them bombs are already out & they are climbing & 40k plus is not unusual.