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Re: big game hunter owned
« Reply #75 on: April 20, 2015, 03:14:53 PM »
You took care of that with the OP, Zach.
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Re: big game hunter owned
« Reply #76 on: April 20, 2015, 03:23:39 PM »




If AH was real i would shoot myself in the foot and hide in the woods, preferbly not near Winston the violator of underlings :old:


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Re: big game hunter owned
« Reply #77 on: April 20, 2015, 03:33:57 PM »
Zack rules. :old:
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Re: big game hunter owned
« Reply #78 on: April 20, 2015, 03:54:20 PM »
If AH was real i would shoot myself in the foot and hide in the woods, preferbly not near Winston the violator of underlings :old:

Winston has needs just like anyone else!  :old:
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Re: big game hunter owned
« Reply #79 on: April 20, 2015, 05:14:47 PM »
Oh, and just for the record, Ian Gibson was the guide, not the hunter....It is suspected that he shot the elephant to protect his client. He wasnt the Hunter. He was the guide,  He was a well known steadfast conservationalist and a magnificent wildlife photographer. Mr Gibson began his wildlife career in Zimbabwe's department of national parks working to protect these animals. Again, this man has done more to protect these animals, than any of the people in this thread.......me included.

Quote "Mr Gibson lived in Marondera, a small town about 45 miles south east of Harare. A son who works in Tanzania and two grown daughters in Harare survive him.

Mr Smith (Paul Smith managing director of Chifuti Safaris')  said poachers from neighbouring Mozambique and Zambia were "very busy" at present, and professional hunters were the first line of defence for wildlife along the borders.

Zimbabwe's National Parks operations were "seriously constrained" by lack of cash to finance enough patrols to limit or reduce poaching, he said."


By all means please feel free to react with emotion instead of looking into what these people do, or even the real facts behind the tragic event that took this mans life. Its evident thats how people would prefer to answer, based on emotion, instead of looking into any details on how allowing responsible and managed hunting, actually helps the species.

That's fair enough, consider me chastened.
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Re: big game hunter owned
« Reply #80 on: April 20, 2015, 05:30:04 PM »
That's fair enough, consider me chastened.

Dont feel that way, it's a good discussion to have, that can be very emotional. No disrespect to you intended on my part.
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Re: big game hunter owned
« Reply #81 on: April 20, 2015, 05:52:10 PM »
I didn't know Ian but I knew of him and know others that spoke very highly of him.  I realize that the realities of elephant conservation in Africa aren't high on most folks radar, but I was still a little surprised when I read through this thread. 
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Re: big game hunter owned
« Reply #82 on: April 20, 2015, 10:12:56 PM »
Dont feel that way, it's a good discussion to have, that can be very emotional. No disrespect to you intended on my part.

No offense taken, but I made statements while being ignorant of the actual facts, never a good idea.

For the record, I don't hunt, I used to fish, first encountered this kind of thing when my old science teacher turned out to be an avid duck hunter. "Ducks Unlimited" I think was his group - they were restoring wetlands before environmentalism was fashionable. Dunno though, the images on the Theroux program stuck in my craw - fish in a barrel had a better chance.
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« Reply #83 on: April 20, 2015, 10:53:20 PM »
The most interesting, and surprising fact about this thread, is that it hasn't been locked....yet. :)
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« Reply #84 on: April 20, 2015, 11:26:27 PM »
The most interesting, and surprising fact about this thread, is that it hasn't been locked....yet. :)

Hey man, gimme time.
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« Reply #85 on: April 20, 2015, 11:38:33 PM »
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« Reply #86 on: April 21, 2015, 05:12:04 AM »
The only reason there is any wild life left in Africa is because of legal sport hunters. Or did you think Walt Disneys spends Billions of $$ teaching the animals to talk and making sure they have nice safe cartoon sets to live on?

Tags to hunt Elephants are very expensive, big Bulls start at about 60 g. The animal is going to die anyway, either the poachers will get him or old age will. Specific animals are hunted in areas that just have to many elephants for the habitat to support. Deforestation, habitat destruction, and poaching are the greatest enemy's to wildlife in Africa. Many a time I had to take apart a snare , on my trips there, left on game trails by poachers. Who sell the meat to buy drugs or booze. Often they are to high when they set them, to remember where they are, and all we found were animals left to die a cruel death at the end of a snare. Corrupt local Govt.'s often allow criminals to illegally kill protected Bulls for their ivory and a share of the $$ gained from the illegal ivory market.

Sport hunting is one of the largest industry's in Africa and provides many millions of $$ for habitat and protection of the animals by rangers. It also provides bookoo legit jobs and is a large boon to the tourist industry.

They really despise the American and European nut job Walt Disney crowd over there who have no idea of wild life conservation. Hunters have saved many species here in America as well. Deer, wild turkey, Elk, Grizzly, Ducks, the list goes on. Try searching "Pittman tax". Not only that but many private hunting organizations make large donations to wild life funds and causes. Then you have the licenses, tags, and taxes collected from the many, many jobs the industry creates.
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Re: big game hunter owned
« Reply #87 on: April 21, 2015, 05:32:46 AM »
That famous Disney film "The Doolittle" raid shows speaking to animals.
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« Reply #88 on: April 21, 2015, 07:47:28 AM »
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Re: big game hunter owned
« Reply #89 on: April 21, 2015, 08:51:05 AM »


Where do you think all that money for permits goes?  Hunters donate more to conservation then any other demographic, especially American hunters,  Google "Pittman-Robertson Act." or "Ducks Unlimited" or "Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation" or Whitetails Unlimited"

In Africa there are dozens of thriving national parks and preserves today, dedicated to conservation and rehabilitation of endangered and threatened (by who?) species and ecosystems.  Where to you think the money to pay for all that has come from?  I'm gonna go out on a limb and say, not from you.  But a whole lot of it comes from the hunters which you decry.


Wow... I think my irony meter just broke, and I'll have to get my hypocrisy meter re-calibrated.  :rolleyes:

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