Jeep Carrier Groups

[ML52]

What do you guys think of the idea of having jeep carrier groups with an LST? My thinking is they would be used to get close to bases freeing the fleet carriers to roam the seas. The fleet carriers being farther away would allow the dive and torp. planes to climb, hunting other fleet carriers. In close the jeeps carriers would have to protect the LST's to get a few tanks on the beach.

[earl1937]

What do you guys think of the idea of having jeep carrier groups with an LST? My thinking is they would be used to get close to bases freeing the fleet carriers to roam the seas. The fleet carriers being farther away would allow the dive and torp. planes to climb, hunting other fleet carriers. In close the jeeps carriers would have to protect the LST's to get a few tanks on the beach.

I think the addition of LST's to the game would add another dimension to an already great game!
The problem comes about on how to protect these things to where they are effective. If I knew that a LST had, say, 6 tanks in it, that's the first thing I would try to kill, because that would be the biggest threat to a base close to a shore line.
It would have to have terrible effective AA guns, some man guns and some automatic.
Then you would have to have a player in control of the LST, just like a carrier CV group! Then you would have to have a player for each of the tanks on board!
Now you have to have 6 to 8 players to make the thing work! That takes a lot of pilots out of the air and that is really what this game is all about, air to air combat!
Then you would have the problem of re-spawning after getting sunk! How would that work?
I don't see how this could work, but the idea is worth debating I guess!

[Sabre]

Been discussed numerous times, the idea of having a dedicated amphib-assault fleet. Any number of ways to approach this.  CVEs (escort, or "jeep" carrier) would have limited plane sets and ord load outs compared to fleet CVs, and would have a CA and DDs as escort. I'd include two LSTs with each Amphib fleet. The way I imagine it working is as follows: Drive the AAG (amphib assualt group) to within X miles of the shore; AAG commander would designate a spot on the shoreline by clicking on the map; one of the LST drives into the shore and beaches, drops a ramp, and becomes a temporary spawn point for light and medium GVs. So long as the AAG remains within a certain distance of the LST, the LST remains on the beach and active; if the AAG gets beyond the support range of the LST for more than 15 minutes, say, the LST disappears. If the beached CV gets destroyed, the second LST can be sent to the shore (I'd only allow one LST-spawn active at a time for each AAG). Any non-beached LST would still be able to spawn LVTs. Once beached, an LST is considered "expended". It cannot back off the beach. Just like any other AH fleet, the only way to replace a sunk or expended LST would be for the entire fleet to respawn after being destroyed. Just my thoughts on how it might work. Like the idea, though.

[Aspen]

Would be fun.  LST lands and anyone can grab an appropriate vehicle until its destroyed or the doors close.  I realize they only held a limited amount, but our carriers allow launching unlimited plane numbers and that works ok.  If it throws anything out of whack, just dial down their defenses until it fits.

If this is an air combat game, please tell all these planes to quit shooting and bombing ground targets and gvs

[bustr]

Knowing how this game runs counter to how technology was used in WW2. And it's a good bet the jeep carrier group and LST would be used as a super mobile ack barge greifers tool. And leveraged(gamed) to death to spawn GV if the LST for each fleet was not limited to 2-3 available only for each shore attack. And the GV were limited to actually number and type an LST could carry into a combat zone.

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Hey Razor, I'll sink the cruiser with my 8inch battery. You use yours to break the LST guys hearts.

Oh! dangit, Waystin you get out of that shore battery and let us have some fun. That LST didn't even get to shore.

Ra!!!!! bomb the CV not the beac.... Hey, Waystin let that one go so we could shoot it.

Waystin, what are you doing with that HurriD??

Ok which piggy is in that 88, Lawndart!!!!.

Is that Melo in a tiger on the beach not sharing GV with us??

semp Oh semp, what are you doing with those B26's?

Hey, why do you Free Birds always follow the Pigs around with a Lancaster herd on water maps?
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Unless the LST were Very Limited and so to the GV they could spawn. We would be playing some funky xbox version of "water world screw you". Or, the real speed and maneuverability of the LST if they had to travel the same distance to shore as LVT. Would make players look at driving one as a suicide ride. If they auto spawned sitting on the shore, "water world screw you". And you betcha jeep and regular CV fleets would get combined instead of letting the CV fleet go forth and do battle on the high seas.

In this game if players are given the choice to win a fight with skill and bravery, or drop a mountain of bull excrement on their opponent while his hands are tied behind his back. Which do they take every single time?