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Offline Skyyr

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Re: Fun as watching grass grow
« Reply #120 on: May 10, 2015, 01:23:03 PM »
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Re: Fun as watching grass grow
« Reply #121 on: May 10, 2015, 01:30:56 PM »
Well that went from strange to bizarre fast. You think the 51d's ENY is unfair. :LOL

Ah, the red herring fallacy. I thought those weren't actually used except in college textbooks.

The P-51D example was purely anecdotal. I don't even like the aircraft, personally.
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Re: Fun as watching grass grow
« Reply #122 on: May 10, 2015, 01:32:21 PM »
Strategic Dominance gaming theory

Please tell me you made this up. PLEASE tell me this isn't an actual thing!
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Re: Fun as watching grass grow
« Reply #123 on: May 10, 2015, 01:35:06 PM »
How is your taking the discussion in an odd direction and my questioning that a 'red herring' on my part?

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Re: Fun as watching grass grow
« Reply #124 on: May 10, 2015, 01:35:22 PM »
Please tell me you made this up. PLEASE tell me this isn't an actual thing!

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_dominance

ACM is based on this, both directly and indirectly (by nature of logical combat forms).
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Re: Fun as watching grass grow
« Reply #125 on: May 10, 2015, 01:39:12 PM »
I've seldom seen players in this game genre confuse tactics and strategy, but it's been known to happen.

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Re: Fun as watching grass grow
« Reply #126 on: May 10, 2015, 01:43:57 PM »
I've seldom seen players in this game genre confuse tactics and strategy, but it's been known to happen.

Strategy in Aces High (and all air combat sims), in the context of air-to-air combat, is ACM. There are literal textbooks of info written about it. We know the strategies available to both sides fully. Therefore, the only variance is the tactics and how they are employed, specifically through available aircraft.

When your tactics are limited due to predetermined bias for one side to have inferior aircraft (what ENY is), the tactics themselves are inferior.

How is your taking the discussion in an odd direction and my questioning that a 'red herring' on my part?

Because my argument takes the premise that ENY "balances" and shows how it can result in an imbalanced situation. Whether or not you intended to discuss aircraft attributes does not mean they are irrelevant to your comments regarding game balancing.
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Re: Fun as watching grass grow
« Reply #127 on: May 10, 2015, 01:50:53 PM »
I don't know about you guys but I follow the "Pipz Dominance Gaming Theory". It's a highly complex strategy of flying really crappy planes and being awesome that only the greatest of pilots have ever been able to master.  :D

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Re: Fun as watching grass grow
« Reply #128 on: May 10, 2015, 01:59:40 PM »
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_dominance

ACM is based on this, both directly and indirectly (by nature of logical combat forms).

I was thrown off by the "Gaming"
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Re: Fun as watching grass grow
« Reply #129 on: May 10, 2015, 02:05:48 PM »
I was thrown off by the "Gaming"

Tactics and strategies are typically referred to in the context of "gaming" when discussed as a subject or area of study.
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Re: Fun as watching grass grow
« Reply #130 on: May 10, 2015, 02:11:38 PM »
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Re: Fun as watching grass grow
« Reply #131 on: May 10, 2015, 02:16:28 PM »
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Re: Fun as watching grass grow
« Reply #132 on: May 10, 2015, 02:34:33 PM »
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Re: Fun as watching grass grow
« Reply #133 on: May 10, 2015, 02:44:43 PM »
When I read all this...this..complaining? I feel like if I was Hitech I'd just shut the game down permanently so you all would see how good you have it. If you want to fly WW2 combat what else is there? War Thunder, World of Warplanes, IL2 with mods. Would you be happier in that universe? It would be great if Hitech Creations was a little better at communicating with the BBS but that takes money.

Look at the crapfest that IL2 COD was, the mod that makes it decent was done by FREE LABOR. I gotta say, people seem a little spoiled at times.
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Re: Fun as watching grass grow
« Reply #134 on: May 10, 2015, 02:50:56 PM »
When I read all this...this..complaining? I feel like if I was Hitech I'd just shut the game down permanently so you all would see how good you have it. If you want to fly WW2 combat what else is there? War Thunder, World of Warplanes, IL2 with mods. Would you be happier in that universe? It would be great if Hitech Creations was a little better at communicating with the BBS but that takes money.

Look at the crapfest that IL2 COD was, the mod that makes it decent was done by FREE LABOR. I gotta say, people seem a little spoiled at times.


Asking for patches to plug holes in gamey exploits is being "spoiled"?  :headscratch:

I will remind you this game isn't free.  If it were then perhaps you would have a point.

Also, plenty of people give of their time for free to improve AH.

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