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Offline Ripsnort

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New England cheatriots
« on: May 11, 2015, 05:15:50 PM »
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Offline Triton28

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Re: New England cheatriots
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2015, 05:44:07 PM »
I'd like to actually see the report.  "More probable than not" about some air in footballs both teams used doesn't make me wanna put Tom Brady in Barry Bonds territory.  If there's nothing really juicy in the report, a 4 game suspension and loss of draft picks is pretty harsh.

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Re: New England cheatriots
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2015, 06:03:01 PM »
Way to harsh for what is a "common practice". I cant stand the Patriot's and find their fans as putrid but you cant alter NFL History over something like this. Fine them and be done with it. They havnt had the success they have had because of deflated footballs. No loss of picks and no suspensions.

Oh wow, they did already suspend him. Well he didnt help his cause by Lieing about it. "course why would this guy care about losing 4 games pay?
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Re: New England cheatriots
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2015, 06:20:07 PM »
Fish rots from the head down. They are officially now verified (after the Belichick Camera-gate) as the New England Cheatriots.

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« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2015, 06:25:20 PM »
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Re: New England cheatriots
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2015, 07:31:08 PM »
First, I'm a Lions fan, went to Purdue University, not Michigan, and have no great love or hate for the Patriots and Tom Brady. 

And this stinks like some sour-grapes bullshoni to me.  They won the game by 60 points, and you can't convict people on "probably" or "more likely than not in my opinion".  Completely undeserved fine/suspension if you can't say with conviction that they did something wrong, which you can't.

Hopefully they appeal and it gets overturned if more damning evidence doesn't turn up, because I expect better out of my NFL.
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Re: New England cheatriots
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2015, 10:08:02 PM »
My theory is Brady ticked off some important folks when he stood Obama up and this was a great opportunity to issue a spanking.
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Re: New England cheatriots
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2015, 08:40:20 AM »
But no worry folks, Patriots have signed free agent QB Jon Grady for a 4 game contract.  :rofl
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Re: New England cheatriots
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2015, 09:07:59 AM »
Right and wrong is black and white, there is no grey area.  There is no line to be crossed because it isn't a line.  It is a wall, you cannot be on both sides at the same time.

Brady and the Patriots, "Compromised the integrity of the game".  That's all you need.  The penalty is based upon how much you wronged the integrity.  Whether it actually affected the outcome of the game is not part and parcel to the discussion.  "I know we cheated, but we would have won anyway" does not work.

The messages that Brady received from the ball handler at the very least alerted him to the fact that the air pressure in the ball would be manipulated.  The right thing to do would have been to report this to the team, at the very least, and there is no record, or at least no discussion of him alerting anyone about this manipulation.  Since he knew about this he is implicit.

The ball handler.  He had choices too.  He chose to reap a personal reward, in the form of gifts and other compensations and putting himself in Bradys pocket as "his Boy".  I understand that this is just an employee, not a millionaire superstar, but how much he got paid has little to do with anything.  His position of power does.  He would have "moved up the ladder" and his actions would surely put him in a position where Brady and the involved Patriots would have at least, "owed him something".  The ball handler did not do the right thing.  Brady did not do the right thing.  The team did not do the right thing because at the very least they failed to police their employees.

This hurt the game.  This disrespected the tens of thousands of people that have played the game and will in the future.

There is no grey area.

The penalty was light in my opinion.
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Re: New England cheatriots
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2015, 09:21:51 AM »
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« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2015, 09:33:46 AM »
Every QB in the NFL has tampered with his foot balls. It has always been a common practice and the NFL has always looked the other way. Most of all its done in cold weather games but I'd bet every team the Patriots played against while deflating their foot balls the other team did the same.

This must go way past foot balls. Sounds like the owners are gangstering Bob Kraft.
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« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2015, 09:50:38 AM »
Does anybody really think the outcome of the game was compromised because of this?  And if you really believe the inflation of the football is going to dramatically impact the outcome of the game, why isn't anyone outraged at the NFL for not either A) assigning an NFL employee to oversee ball inflation, or B) telling the refs to keep a closer eye on the balls once they're checked prior to the game.



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Re: New England cheatriots
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2015, 09:55:55 AM »
Soooo, if this wasn't cheating, was it "gaming the game"?  :old:
Oh and BTW, "its ok because everyone else does it" is a child's excuse and unacceptable. :mad:
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Re: New England cheatriots
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2015, 11:15:27 AM »
I can't believe that the league doesn't supply the ball for every game, with neither team having access prior.

The ball should be a constant.

I'm sure it happens all of the time, these bozos just got caught.

Just put an asterisk in the record books, just like they should do with the roid-heads in baseball.
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« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2015, 12:02:40 PM »
They got caught because they are good. Just sour grapes from other teams.

Agree BuckShot, the balls should be league balls not team balls.

Off hand I don't know of any other sport where teams use their own balls.