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Leaked Images of the AMD R9 390X Vid Card
« on: May 12, 2015, 10:22:10 PM »
http://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics-Cards/Leaked-AMD-Fiji-Card-Images-Show-Small-Form-Factor-Water-Cooler-Integration

If true this is a good looking form factored vid card......................... ...........

Won't be long now.......................

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Re: Leaked Images of the AMD R9 390X Vid Card
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2015, 09:18:03 PM »
LOL @ calling it Fiji

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Re: Leaked Images of the AMD R9 390X Vid Card
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2015, 02:15:01 PM »
http://techreport.com/review/28294/amd-high-bandwidth-memory-explained

Joe Macri @ AMD engineer is giving interviews on this stuff now.......................... .........& has made some interesting comments that could transform into this new tech along w/ the new Fiji XT GPU being the real deal................if pans out this could be a game changer...........

Reported that this R9 390X card will come in 2 flavors: 1 air-cooled, 1 water-cooled............

Getting closer....................... .............................

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Re: Leaked Images of the AMD R9 390X Vid Card
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2015, 03:34:47 AM »
AMD is going to come out with a new HBM memory technology. 10x memory bandwith, anyone?

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/05/19/amd_hbm_high_bandwidth_memory_technology_unveiled#.VV7qA9OqpBc
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Re: Leaked Images of the AMD R9 390X Vid Card
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2015, 06:29:34 PM »
I wonder if that new technology is consumer friendly in terms of money ...
Do they state any pricing ?


AMD is going to come out with a new HBM memory technology. 10x memory bandwith, anyone?

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/05/19/amd_hbm_high_bandwidth_memory_technology_unveiled#.VV7qA9OqpBc
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Re: Leaked Images of the AMD R9 390X Vid Card
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2015, 07:17:16 PM »
the new Fiji XT GPU being the real deal

As a regular traveler to Fiji, I just want to underscore Fiji brings me images of friendly people, extensive corruption, slow (or no) service, nothing getting done,  and "island time" (feel free to google that).

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Re: Leaked Images of the AMD R9 390X Vid Card
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2015, 12:49:36 PM »
Now this is gonna be subjective thinking to some in here at best but.......................

Since Nvidia has just stepped out in front of AMD's upcoming release & released it's scaled down version of the 12Gb mem fully fleshed GM200 GPU TitanX listed at $1,000.00 w/ GTX 980 Ti w/ fully fleshed GM200 GPU, 6Gb mem & fewer cuda cores listed at approx. $650.00----ahead of AMD's scheduled launch of it's new "rumored" Fiji\Fury XT GPU-equipped vid cards w/ now-known HBM architecture that will be limited to 4 Gb capacity at launch, coupled w/ the now known move that Nvidia did more than 2 yrs ago to counter AMD's launch of their R9 290X Hawaii XT GPU w/ 512-bit GPU\mem bus w/ 4Gb GDDR5 mem at 1250Hz freq vid card that was listed at $750.00-$800.00 to counter Nvidia's original GTX Titan--crippled GK110 GPU w/ crippled cuda cores (2816 instead of 2880) w/ 6Gb GDDR5 mem at 6000Hz freq on a 384-bit GPU\mem bus listed at $1,000.00--by shortly following up AMD's release w/ a FULLY fleshed GK110 GPU GTX 780Ti w/ FULL 2880 cuda cores, 3Gb GDDR5 mem on 384-bit GPU\mem bus w/ the mem freq SPED up to 7000Hz listed at approx. $650.00-$700.00.................

My gut read here tells me that the proverbial shoe that Nvidia landed on AMD's neck at that time has just been "landed" on Nvidia's  neck by AMD as there was no reason for Nvidia to get out in front of AMD if they believed that they were not gonna be out done by AMD's release of this new "tech"....they simply just could have done what they did w/ the GTX 780Ti AFTER AMD released the R9 290X 2 yrs back & cut AMD's throat again........but Nvidia did not wait this round to do that & couple in the known fact that Nvidia WILL be using HBM2 architecture (along w/ AMD as well) w/ their next gen Pascal GPU's..................from this action I smell a rat & from all this is why I'm really gonna wait for AMD's release & will most likely purchase 1 if the initial reviews prove what I'm already thinking right now................regardless of whether the Nvidia GTX 980Ti is cheaper or not or if the AMD drivers are not quite polished at initial release for Fiji\Fury.................that this upcoming AMD hardware release is indeed a game changing product & is the real deal.

Marketing 101 being employed here folks by Nvidia attempting to hold on to % of market share in lieu of their competitor AMD releasing a potentially better performing & cost-efficient flagship product to market than what flagship product Nvidia currently had in the market...................

My 2 cents....................

We'll find out if I interpreted this correctly in a few days...........I just can't see AMD's marketing dept falling for this 2 times in succession...................

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Also note that AMD is out front of Nvidia & have an advantage on Intel w/ their new combined "APU" sers CPU\GPU chips which are already out w/o either of the competition effectively countering them........yet........& AMD is about to come out w/ a new architecture (Zen) & when used in conjunction w\ HBM tech could even further enhance their current position in the market place.........I think that AMD has learned a thing or 2 along the way..............

PS......This is no different than what is currently occurring w/ SSD's right now transitioning from SATAIII-based to PCI-E-based & from AHCI protocol to NVMe protocol.....the new "tech" is clearly superior to the prior tech (& I have a PCI-E SSD that clearly proves this)....just cause it's in the infancy of development thus it is priced out of reach of most of the mainstream consumer markets at this time does not justify that it is a bad thing\deal for other fellow consumers to spend the necessary funds to acquire it as it develops because they CHOSE to do so.....simply a reality of being in a free market society.

Again my 2 cents................

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Re: Leaked Images of the AMD R9 390X Vid Card
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2015, 02:07:01 PM »
Look it has a cover on it that appears to be a grill. Multi purpose graphics card pannini maker? You know that sucker is going to be hot.
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Re: Leaked Images of the AMD R9 390X Vid Card
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2015, 02:08:48 PM »
Look it has a cover on it that appears to be a grill. Multi purpose graphics card pannini maker? You know that sucker is going to be hot.

It's water cooled, duh.
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Re: Leaked Images of the AMD R9 390X Vid Card
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2015, 10:01:55 PM »
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1041663380#post1041663380

An even more definitive photo of the new AMD Fury graphics card w/ water cooling.....................

We'll find out Tuesday!

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PS--Even if this card's TDP was as low as the GTX 980Ti's 250W TDP, the form factor size of this package IMHO can only be adequately cooled by water cooling....the package is too small IMHO to accommodate adequate air cooling, based on the size of the smallest adequately air-cooled 250W package....the Nvidia Titan-designed metal blower cooler....is better than 30% larger than this new AMD form factor size so this IMHO also doesn't mean that this new AMD Fury card's TDP is higher than 250W.........& since water cooling is known to be the most commercially efficient method of transferring heat away from components outside of using extreme cooling methods like LNG, this can also be interpreted to use water cooling to enhance even more power application (using 2-8 pin connectors instead of using the std 1-6 pin, 1-8 pin connector combo) to further enhance the GPU\mem performance output but still stay within the card's TDP design limit......not just to keep another poorly designed AMD GPU from overheating. We'll find this out on Tuesday as well but it sure is a slick looking package & I'm liking what I'm seeing so far.........................  :salute
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Re: Leaked Images of the AMD R9 390X Vid Card
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2015, 09:41:14 AM »
I am getting a 980Ti and have no desire to leave EVGA.
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Re: Leaked Images of the AMD R9 390X Vid Card
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2015, 12:31:20 PM »
I am getting a 980Ti and have no desire to leave EVGA.

got mine the other day this thing is a beast


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Re: Leaked Images of the AMD R9 390X Vid Card
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2015, 09:35:08 PM »
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1041663380#post1041663380

An even more definitive photo of the new AMD Fury graphics card w/ water cooling.....................

We'll find out Tuesday!

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PS--Even if this card's TDP was as low as the GTX 980Ti's 250W TDP, the form factor size of this package IMHO can only be adequately cooled by water cooling....the package is too small IMHO to accommodate adequate air cooling, based on the size of the smallest adequately air-cooled 250W package....the Nvidia Titan-designed metal blower cooler....is better than 30% larger than this new AMD form factor size so this IMHO also doesn't mean that this new AMD Fury card's TDP is higher than 250W.........& since water cooling is known to be the most commercially efficient method of transferring heat away from components outside of using extreme cooling methods like LNG, this can also be interpreted to use water cooling to enhance even more power application (using 2-8 pin connectors instead of using the std 1-6 pin, 1-8 pin connector combo) to further enhance the GPU\mem performance output but still stay within the card's TDP design limit......not just to keep another poorly designed AMD GPU from overheating. We'll find this out on Tuesday as well but it sure is a slick looking package & I'm liking what I'm seeing so far.........................  :salute

Well the baby has been birthed!

From what was reported to be said by the AMD folks during the E3 launch the AMD FuryX vid card is Fiji-powered, has a 275W TDP (25W more than TitanX\980Ti's 250W TDP), is equipped w/ a 6 phase VRM to power this thing w/ max VRM output of 400A (that's a LOT of available power to have on hand--2 8-pin connectors), the water cooling system is capable of cooling a max of 500W worth of heat & keep the card within the rated TDP (if so this sucker should OC big time) & there will be 3 more Fiji-powered variants coming (Fury will be FuryX w/ air cooling, Fury Nano--air cooled & shorter form factor than Fury\FuryX-- & an unnamed X2-Fiji GPU variant) all w/ 4 Gb HBM on interposer w/ GPU\GPU's. FuryX is reported to be 1.5X more power efficient than 290X ( I suspect AMD is intentionally under reporting the FuryX's max performance somewhat on purpose), the Fury Nano is reported to be able to reach 2x the performance per watt of 290X when it debuts (this is why I suspect some under reporting of the FuryX's performance ceiling).

The Fury line was targeted to be able to run games well at 4K w/ all graphics at ultra settings & so none of these cards will be equipped w/ DVI connections, only 1 HDMI port & 3 DP ports & the FuryX will be priced at $649.99....right w/ the Nvidia GTX 980Ti card.

It appears that AMD is really gonna go head-to-head w/ Nvidia & compete for our dollars................

Waiting on the reviews as the FuryX will hit the stores on 6-24-15........................

I just might have to get & test 1 of these out...............I love new tech!
 
Already got me a new HDMI 18Gb\s cable w/ Redmere control chip in anticipation................. ......

http://techreport.com/news/28481/amd-fiji-gpu-rides-in-on-four-radeon-r9-fury-graphics-cards

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Re: Leaked Images of the AMD R9 390X Vid Card
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2015, 02:23:34 PM »
While waiting on the reviews to come out next week on the AMD FuryX card's performance after it ships to retail, I went on Newegg & researched cabling for the HDMI & DisplayPort interface to decide on which 1 I was going to get to set up for the advent of me getting 1 of these cards....& also using reasoning that Nvidia will also at some point most likely follow suit as AMD has started & do away w/ the DVI port on their cards as well (this is another piece of PC architecture that has served its purpose & is time to be discontinued & will help to cut some development\implementation costs on these products as well).

At this time, since I have made the decision to stay w/ my current monitor for now (DoubleSight DS-279W) I went w/ HDMI. I found this HDMI cable on Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812117610

After researching on it & others HDMI cables I went for a couple of these (1 for my box & 1 for the wife's box....on her box I'm gonna enable sound to go across this cable to the speakers located in her HP 2710M monitor & get rid of the external speakers currently being used....) due to the Redmere chip being used to enhance signal output & quality on the HDMI 2.0 spec.

I got the time yesterday to pull my box out & remove the DVI cable, install the Coboc HDMI cable (had to reposition my vid card slightly in its slots to make room for the HDMI plug to fully seat in the socket) then boot up & go into my monitor menu & change the signal from DVI to HDMI....all came up in good order w/o any issues.

The very 1st thing that I noticed immediately is the improvement in display operation...transition was faster, smoother & crisper. The display images were very clean & clear....I wasn't expecting this to happen, but I should have as this is 1 of the advantages of using HDMI (or DP) over DVI is the advent of using surround sound in conjunction w/ video so the signal transfer rate across this cable for both video & sound needs to be very fast & wide (bandwidth) w/ good signal fidelity.

Went up & flew around for a while & thru the gameplay as now seen on my monitor it has shown me that a lot of the "stuttering" (which I will add that I noticed very little of anyway) is really not all due to the graphics card.......

Every part of the process has a part to play in the total result..............

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Re: Leaked Images of the AMD R9 390X Vid Card
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2015, 02:52:10 PM »
My next upgrade will be end of summer/fall whenever Skylake's new platform is available. I've been a long time nVidia supporter, but wouldn't mind checking out the new Fiji or Fury cards for kicks with the new build.  A lot of rumbles on tech channels about the new Ram AMD is using and the performance to price ratio of these new cards.  I put a Titan X in my 5960x box before the 980ti came out, or I would have bought that instead, and have no regrets with my 980s in my other 2 systems.  The only AMD card I still have is a 5770 in a home theater pc that is still trucking along 5 years later.

I'm not so stuck on brand, despite being very happy with nVidia for the last 4 years, that I won't try AMD if the reviews show it to be a better card for the money.  Driver support is one issue I have concerns over, but only time can tell with that one.